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			nope but pretty close.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			nope. it doesn't have a proper name. And you shouldn't take the hints too literally. it's not really moving even though it is "ever moving".  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I'm still confused.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			no, it's not a geographical place.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			would it help if I said that the "ever moving" comes from a song that made it to the movies and the "dangerous" part is from a clause of Bilbo. I'm really bad at giving hints.  
		
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		  no. ok I'll make this real easy. just finish the quote. "get of the ____"
		
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			Road!!! I was going to say that!! But I didn't think followed fit it..  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			   But it's perfect for ever moving (road goes ever on and on...) and danger. (It's a dangerous business Frodo going out your door...)
		
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			excellent Bombadil!   
		
		
		
		
		
		
			  now that I think of it, followed isn't the best hint for road... well, a little challenge is always good  
		
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			After I look at it again though it is pretty good. The road is followed, I just interpreted the road as following something. Very riddle-like I do say. Let's see hmm... 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			black, swift, infamous 
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	'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'  | 
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			maybe Ancalagon? 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			he was black and infamous and since he was the first of the winged dragons you could say he was swift. 
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			think not living
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			hahah not that kind of not living. As in Place, object, event
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Good answer but I couldn't see how that would match swift. Nope sorry!  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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			I think I gots it! The black gate?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			nope, I suppose infamous is a bad hint, since everything in Middle-Earth that's written about is infamous. It's a Weapon, and no it's not Anglachel.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Nope. It's a weapon that's not usually black, but this thing in particular was special...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I can't believe this... black, swift, infamous... How can it NOT be Gurthang!!!  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Um... Is it the Original Grond, Hammer of Morgoth perhaps?? (not very hopeful) OR could it be Grond, the battering ram of Mordor (even less hopeful) 
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			The Black Arrow with which Bard shot Smaug.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			aw man... i knew saucepan would get it :P  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I always wondered, why on earth would a bloke like Bard carry a black arrow around with him? Also it was never specified whether the arrow was one of many, and just happened to be the last, or was the only black arrow he owned. Mayble all his arrows were black. :P 
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			Good point Ossë, I just always assumed it was special, because if they were all black how could he save it for last? Anyway, you're up Mr. Sauce.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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			Why thank you Mr B.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			  Next up: Foul, Ravaging, Depleting 
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			Orcs? They destroyed trees, and their foulness is already obvious.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Balrogs?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Nope.  Neither Orcs nor Balrogs.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			maybe oliphaunts? I'm not sure about foul but they sure are ravaging and depleting.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			'Fraid not. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			The answer is not something that is living, although it was likely to have been caused by living things ... 
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			Could have been that Plague that wiped half of Gondors population?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			It was indeed the Great Plague.  Well done Gil-Galad.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			  Take it away ... 
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			it was just the Depelting thing that made me think...since it did deplete Gondors Population 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Unseen, one Colour, singers of joy and doom probaly to easy... 
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			well, since you said it is easy, I'll give it a quess: the Ainur.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			nope...kinda way off
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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