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Amandil · 05-09-2001, 12:54 PM

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Re: Hounds or other dogs?

Back to Huan.
In the Silmarillion, references to Huan are made stating:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> "Now chief of the wolfhounds that followed Celegorm was named Huan. He was not born in Middle-earth, but came from the Blessed Realm; for Oromë had given him to Celegorm long agon in Valinor, and there he had followed the horn of his master, before evil came." <hr></blockquote>
and
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> "..for nothing could escape the sight and scent of Huan, nor could any enchantment stay him, and he slept not, neither by night or day." <hr></blockquote>
Later, while assisting Lúthien to escape :
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> "Then he led her by secret ways out of Nargothrond, and they fled together; and he humbled his pride and suffered her to ride upon him in the fashion of a steed, even as the Orcs did upon great wolves." <hr></blockquote>
So we have seen that Huan is some great breed of wolfhound, and that he had many special abilities.
We see that he could fit inside the secret ways of Nargothrond and yet was great enough to carry a rider, like a horse.

Later, he fights Carcharoth, the Red Maw, greatest of all wolves who is described thusly:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> "Switfly the wolf grew, until he could creep into no den, but lay huge and hungry before the feet of Morgoth." <hr></blockquote>
Carcharoth is also described as "unsleeping".

I have always seen the Hound of Valinor as being the same size as Carcharoth.
The trouble is, I see Clifford, Hound of Valinor if I let my attention wander. <img src=tongue.gif ALT="

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How large do other people envisage Huan? How about Carcharoth? Are they just large versions of normal animals with special abilities, or are they larger than that?

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05-09-2001, 12:54 PM	#14
Amandil Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bristow, Virginia Posts: 99	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit Posts: 95</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Hounds or other dogs? Back to Huan. In the Silmarillion, references to Huan are made stating: <blockquote>*Quote:<hr> "Now chief of the wolfhounds that followed Celegorm was named Huan. He was not born in Middle-earth, but came from the Blessed Realm; for Oromë had given him to Celegorm long agon in Valinor, and there he had followed the horn of his master, before evil came." <hr></blockquote> and <blockquote>Quote:<hr> "..for nothing could escape the sight and scent of Huan, nor could any enchantment stay him, and he slept not, neither by night or day." <hr></blockquote> Later, while assisting Lúthien to escape : <blockquote>Quote:<hr> "Then he led her by secret ways out of Nargothrond, and they fled together; and he humbled his pride and suffered her to ride upon him in the fashion of a steed, even as the Orcs did upon great wolves." <hr></blockquote> So we have seen that Huan is some great breed of wolfhound, and that he had many special abilities. We see that he could fit inside the secret ways of Nargothrond and yet was great enough to carry a rider, like a horse. Later, he fights Carcharoth, the Red Maw, greatest of all wolves who is described thusly: <blockquote>Quote:*<hr> "Switfly the wolf grew, until he could creep into no den, but lay huge and hungry before the feet of Morgoth." <hr></blockquote> Carcharoth is also described as "unsleeping". I have always seen the Hound of Valinor as being the same size as Carcharoth. The trouble is, I see Clifford, Hound of Valinor if I let my attention wander. <img src=tongue.gif ALT=""> How large do other people envisage Huan? How about Carcharoth? Are they just large versions of normal animals with special abilities, or are they larger than that? </p>