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Old 05-06-2004, 03:41 PM   #1
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Actually, PJ has no intention as far as anyone knows, of doing the Hobbit now. He and Fran are totally occupied by King Kong. You can read to your heart's content about anything concerning the Hobit film here.
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Old 05-06-2004, 06:23 PM   #2
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Actually, PJ has no intention as far as anyone knows, of doing the Hobbit now. He and Fran are totally occupied by King Kong.
Oh, he's certainly not worrying about it now. But apparently he is very interested in it after King Kong (as just about everybody has said in just about every post in this thread ).
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Old 12-11-2004, 12:33 PM   #3
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Question Oh, my....

More fuel for speculation..... Here is a doozy of a story on The Hobbit.

Click here for PJ's comments on bringing back the "relatives" of the Ring characters.

OK, Gimli is not a problem. You could certainly reprise Ian as Gandalf. And I suppose they could run into a younger Arwen or Aragorn or Legalos. The latter would make some sense in Mirkwood, perhaps even helping Bilbo escape.

But what could they possibly have in mind for Pippin or Merry or someone like Boromir or Faramir? (Just how far are they going with this thing?) And how do Ian and Elijah fit in here? If all his Hobbit buds were going back for the Hobbit shooting, I can't imagine Elijah being "left out".

Any ideas? You also get the impression that some of these actors still really miss the bonds they forged in making LotR.
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Old 12-11-2004, 03:19 PM   #4
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[QUOTE=Child of the 7th Age]More fuel for speculation..... Here is a doozy of a story on The Hobbit.


OK, Gimli is not a problem. You could certainly reprise Ian as Gandalf. And I suppose they could run into a younger Arwen or Aragorn or Legalos. The latter would make some sense in Mirkwood, perhaps even helping Bilbo escape.

But what could they possibly have in mind for Pippin or Merry or someone like Boromir or Faramir? (Just how far are they going with this thing?) And how do Ian and Elijah fit in here? If all his Hobbit buds were going back for the Hobbit shooting, I can't imagine Elijah being "left out".

Any ideas?

Gimli says he was left at home as being too young at merely sixty (can't recall where this passage appears, somewhere in the HOME books, where the characters are sitting around Minas Tirith discussing the quest of Erebor).That leaves him out. Legolas would be there, but really, is there any reason Orlando Bloom couldn't just play Thranduil? That way they wouldn't have to stick in a cameo of a character who wasn't in the novel just to please the fans. Of course, he is a bit young to be convincing; Thranduil might look young, but has a mature dignity about him. I'd still rather see that than stick in Legolas. No, you couldn't have Boromir or Faramir, obviously, or even a young Denethor, because he wasn't born at the time! Arwen was in Lothlorien at the time - remember, when Aragorn first sees her, she's only just come home from there, and he's twenty at the time. Aragorn was ten and living in Rivendell during the period of The Hobbit - he could perhaps come in briefly while the maps are being interpreted and be shooed off to play. Though I sometimes wonder if Aragorn *ever* played.
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:06 PM   #5
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Lobelia,

Sorry if my entry about Gimli was confusing. Since PJ said the LotR staff would be playing "relatives", I assumed Rhys would be playing his own dad Glóin who was, of course, part of the dwarf contingent.

The same thing goes for the rest of the cast: these would have to be "relatives" in many cases, since the chronology wouldn't fit otherwise. The question is this: how far do they bend the story line to include these actors? Just how would Gondorians fit into this mix? And are we talking about a one-minute cameo or something more extensive? Perhaps, PJ was referring mainly to the Hobbits.

Iam not sure how Legalos would come over as Thranduil. That would be such a different character than Orlando has ever played. And I'm not just talking about how he looks!

Still, it is curious to think about these possibilities and whatPJ may have in mind....

P.S. I think Astin is such a good actor that, with a bit of make-up, he could make a thoroughly amusing Gaffer.
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:24 PM   #6
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Sean Bean would rock as Bard.

In terms of Legolas, I guess it depends on how you interpret "Son of Thranduil". If he's crown prince then you'd have to make a big deal of him; but if Thranduil has other, older sons, then Legolas could show up just about anywhere, leading a group of elves to do just about anything, and speak any lines attributed to any un-named elf in Mirkwood, as long as it isn't the 'butler' or the turnkey. Wide open. I wonder if Legolas ever got sent to the Wine Cellar to run barrels? Perhaps for giving his father the King too much lip? "Roll-roll-roll-roll..." Ha!

I think Elijah Wood ought to play a short elf. Much better suited to that, bony-face, blue-eyes & all.... Hey-- how about the butler?? Or he could be one of the elves singing "Tralalalally."

*cough*

In terms of The Hobbits-- What is there for them to do, really? Aside from the departure at The Green Dragon and the auctioning off of Biilbo's stuff upon his return, there just aren't many scenes in The Hobbit for more than one Hobbit.
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:43 PM   #7
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You know, I think it's worth pointing out that I don't see anything in that article that says that it was Jackson who was floating these ideas of the cast coming back to play relatives. Actors are always looking for their next job, and "There was talk..." could be nothing more than a few of the guys sitting around going, "Man, wouldn't it be great if we could come back and play our relatives in The Hobbit? Yeah! Make it happen, Pete!"
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Old 12-12-2004, 03:01 PM   #8
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I think I've commented somewhere about Hobbit movie(s). I'd like to see a
two-parter, the first ending showing the White Council, elves, and Dunedain
attacking Dol Guldur and Thorin & Co. either escaping from the Bonfire Glen or
entering Mirkwood. Two films would mean lots of $$$$$ for everybody, and
give more time to cover the story, perhaps in 2 1/2 hour movies, rather then one
longer film, which would also be preferable to one 3+ hours for movie theater scheduling for one longer movie.

And why not John R. Davies as Thorin? Of course, they'd have to have a
better makeup system so he doesn't get disabling rashes, since Bilbo, Gandalf,
and Thorin have more "screentime" then anyone.

And, just a thought, why not have four hobbits and nine dwarves in Thorin
and Co.? Perhaps a tolerable change (certainly more so then PJ's
botching of Denethor).
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Old 12-12-2004, 09:22 PM   #9
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You know, I think it's worth pointing out that I don't see anything in that article that says that it was Jackson who was floating these ideas of the cast coming back to play relatives. Actors are always looking for their next job, and "There was talk..." could be nothing more than a few of the guys sitting around going, "Man, wouldn't it be great if we could come back and play our relatives in The Hobbit? Yeah! Make it happen, Pete!"
Good point....

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Old 12-14-2004, 05:07 AM   #10
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Lobelia,

Sorry if my entry about Gimli was confusing. Since PJ said the LotR staff would be playing "relatives", I assumed Rhys would be playing his own dad Glóin who was, of course, part of the dwarf contingent.



Still, it is curious to think about these possibilities and whatPJ may have in mind....

P.S. I think Astin is such a good actor that, with a bit of make-up, he could make a thoroughly amusing Gaffer.
Ah, John Rhys-Davies as Gloin, nice idea - Gloin is a feisty character who thinks Bilbo is an idiot and would be a meaty role ... or he could do Balin, the kind one, or even Thorin.

Alas, much as I loved Astin as Sam, I think he's actually too *old* to play Hamfast, who was a young boy at the time - remember, early in LOTR he remarks that he had just become an apprentice to the previous gardener at the time of the Erebor quest?

Perhaps they should just start again with a new cast? And some new hunk as Bard (though not too young, because Bard, like Aragorn, is not young - at least, I don't get that impression.)
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