Friends of Nimrodel: Tapestry of Dreams - Discussion - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mark12_30 · 04-14-2004, 04:41 AM

All right, lmp, I'll think of something...

ruminate, ruminate.... (uh-oh, that's not phrench, is it? Must celticize.)

Aylwen, clever choice of songs-- and classy adaptation! It's a rare song, you sure know where to look to find good ones!

Nuru-- tunes, babe, we need TUNES!

How about wav files? Does your computer have a mic? (And I *still* owe your wee hobbit some mp3s... the days are too short.)

Nurumaiel · 04-14-2004, 12:40 PM

Aylwen, quite a lovely song! Did you write it or adapt it? If the latter, where can I find the original words? It's taken my fancy, I must admit, and I've never heard it before.

Helen, as for tunes I have quite a few tunes for Liornung's song, yet the problem is that they're songs that he hasn't yet sung in either Friends of Nimrodel or at the White Horse. I'm putting together a book of his tunes with lyrics and I'm working on jpg files that will have the tunes though it is very basic and you won't be able to find 4/4 measures or 3/4 measures specified or the like. I'll probably put up a website if you really are interested that will have those lyrics and the tuen jpg images. I do have a tune worked out for the Fair Maid of Gondor song he just recently performed for the company, but I can only give it to you the way I scribbled it down, which are a series of C's and D's and E's and so on and so forth up to B's. Here it is now, and I'll let you know that capitals represents a note in the higher octave. I'll kill myself today over making the jpg images, however.

Naturally the song is sung/played quickly and merrily. The tune is the same throughout the whole song, save the final chorus but I don't have my notebook with me and it's slipped my mind.

c a g f d c c c d c d e f
for
Come all you lads and lassies and listen for awhile.

c a g f d c c c c d c d e f
for
I'll sing to you a verse or two and try to make you smile.

c C C C a C C C a g f a D C
for
But if instead you weep with grief, do not be ashamed

C a a a g f c c c - d c d e f
for
for others who have heard this song wept, more than can be named.

c c c c C - a a g f
for
Fal-la-do-la-do, fal-al-the-day.

I really will work on those jpg images today so it can be seen which notes go with which words!

As for wav files, this computer I'm currently working on doesn't have a mic but I do believe another one does and I could transfer the files to different computers. I wouldn't mind playing the tin whistle and putting it on the wav file and I suppose I could sing but it's rather likely a fit of shyness will take me and I'll hesitate.

I suppose I could attempt to play the tin whistle and then sing and put the two together...... I'll PM you about it, though, and let you know what I can manage!

littlemanpoet · 04-14-2004, 06:50 PM

I sang it! I did, I did. Helen can promise you that I know how. I almost did the same thing to her on YIM that you put on this thread. What a lively tune!

mark12_30 · 04-14-2004, 08:12 PM

littlemanpoet is ahead of meee!

I tried but wasn't sure of a few things-- Is the little c the root of the scale and the big C the octave above it and the other notes in between? Does the initial 'a' go down from the c or up? And is it in the key of c? or a minor? I'll be glad of the whistle version. Like I said, lmp is ahead of me this time!

At lmp's prompting the Rohan group has moved forward another day (to morning of Dec 14.) As always posts can be inserted if need be. Ædegard doesn't dare ask Amroth to open the morning's game-- so who's next, Ædegard or Liornung? Or Bellyn?

Speaking of Bellyn, she shyly mentioned the Lay of Nimrodel after her opening song, and I had a mental image of the Valar (Mandos and Lorien) clapping their hands over Amroth's ears as she said it. I guess we'll say that Amroth was temporarily distracted by Valarish interference.

However, Ædegard, Bellyn, and Liornung please feel free to discuss it. The topic will come up, repeatedly I'm sure; but the Valar are not allowing Amroth to "remember" the intervening 1000 years, and he will always (always) draw a blank about them. He thinks the storm was a few months ago, and he doesn't remember his swim to shore very well (for instance that it was ill-fated.) He doesn't quite relate that to the dreams.

Alaklondewen, this will be a challenge for Erebemlin to deal with. Osanwe will convince Amroth that Erebemlin isn't pulling a fast one on him; but Amroth won't grasp the significance of the 1000-year gap. He'll just keep saying that he has to find her. His stubborness and Valar-driven mental block will seem like stupidity at times, or perhaps worse.

Imladris · 04-14-2004, 08:24 PM

I posted for Aeron and Gwyllion, and I do hope my post wasn't too terribly confusing...

I took the liberty of hastening it to the morning, but after I posted the post I realized that I probably shouldn't have done that because of this confusing time travel thing. If I have done wrong, let me know.

However, I do hope that you will forgive the numerous "Bad Forms" references that I borrowed from Peter Pan, and the highly used (probably over used) stunt of using a burning blade from PotC....but I couldn't resist, Mate.

I wondered if I should use the Bad Form because it is Peter Pan...but then I didn't think it sounded too modern for LotR. But I am just an amateur so please correct me if I was mistaken and I will gladly edit to something else.

Cheers,
Istawen

mark12_30 · 04-14-2004, 08:56 PM

Imladris, we can debate the use of the phrase "Bad Form" over the next few posts... after I eventually finish chuckling. What a great post!

Can't wait to read Ravion's response.

Nurumaiel · 04-15-2004, 12:14 PM

Helen,
I can't answer your questions at the moment but I'll let you know that I've recorded Fair Maid of Gondor on tin whistle and it's just a matter of moving it to this computer and putting it on a webpage. I'll let you know when it's up. There's also one other tune I have done that sounds lovely with the tin whistle and guitar merged. I don't know about my voice, however. I'm having a difficult time getting the hang of how to sing it well and in a way that it will match the tin whistle perfectly when put together. I'll work at it, though!

I've posted for Liornung and he's sung a new song..... he's writing songs too fast! I can't come up with the tunes, let alone record them. I really need to get a mic on my computer so I can lock myself up all day and work at it.

Liornung has started the day's game! Who wants to go next?

mark12_30 · 04-15-2004, 12:16 PM

Nuru-- Lovely, lovely, LOVELY!!

Tapestry Team--

Recently the question came up "is it okay if I introduce anther character". The answer is, for all of us, a resounding Yes.

This is Gondor-- so create, develop, carry, and kill off major and minor characters as you see fit! If the rest of us are horrified by something canon-hostile we will say something (won't we.) But this is your story as well as "mine"; own it. Own your characters-- as many as you want to carry, for as long as you need them. If you are interested in "The Other Thread" (Ædegard's or Ravion's, whichever you're absent from) and wish you were involved, then invent a plausible character and go investigate there.

(Before you kill off somebody else's character, perhaps it's best to ask.)

Plot twists are what make Gondor so much fun. Don't be shy.

04-14-2004, 04:41 AM	#1
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	All right, lmp, I'll think of something... ruminate, ruminate.... (uh-oh, that's not phrench, is it? Must celticize.) Aylwen, clever choice of songs-- and classy adaptation! It's a rare song, you sure know where to look to find good ones! Nuru-- tunes, babe, we need TUNES! How about wav files? Does your computer have a mic? (And I still owe your wee hobbit some mp3s... the days are too short.) __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

04-14-2004, 12:40 PM	#2
Nurumaiel Vice of Twilight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: on a mountain Posts: 1,121	Aylwen, quite a lovely song! Did you write it or adapt it? If the latter, where can I find the original words? It's taken my fancy, I must admit, and I've never heard it before. Helen, as for tunes I have quite a few tunes for Liornung's song, yet the problem is that they're songs that he hasn't yet sung in either Friends of Nimrodel or at the White Horse. I'm putting together a book of his tunes with lyrics and I'm working on jpg files that will have the tunes though it is very basic and you won't be able to find 4/4 measures or 3/4 measures specified or the like. I'll probably put up a website if you really are interested that will have those lyrics and the tuen jpg images. I do have a tune worked out for the Fair Maid of Gondor song he just recently performed for the company, but I can only give it to you the way I scribbled it down, which are a series of C's and D's and E's and so on and so forth up to B's. Here it is now, and I'll let you know that capitals represents a note in the higher octave. I'll kill myself today over making the jpg images, however. Naturally the song is sung/played quickly and merrily. The tune is the same throughout the whole song, save the final chorus but I don't have my notebook with me and it's slipped my mind. c a g f d c c c d c d e f for Come all you lads and lassies and listen for awhile. c a g f d c c c c d c d e f for I'll sing to you a verse or two and try to make you smile. c C C C a C C C a g f a D C for But if instead you weep with grief, do not be ashamed C a a a g f c c c - d c d e f for for others who have heard this song wept, more than can be named. c c c c C - a a g f for Fal-la-do-la-do, fal-al-the-day. I really will work on those jpg images today so it can be seen which notes go with which words! As for wav files, this computer I'm currently working on doesn't have a mic but I do believe another one does and I could transfer the files to different computers. I wouldn't mind playing the tin whistle and putting it on the wav file and I suppose I could sing but it's rather likely a fit of shyness will take me and I'll hesitate. I suppose I could attempt to play the tin whistle and then sing and put the two together...... I'll PM you about it, though, and let you know what I can manage! __________________ In the fury of the moment I can see the Master's hand in every leaf that trembles, in every grain of sand.

04-14-2004, 08:12 PM	#4
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Fiddle de dum and fiddle dee dee! littlemanpoet is ahead of meee! I tried but wasn't sure of a few things-- Is the little c the root of the scale and the big C the octave above it and the other notes in between? Does the initial 'a' go down from the c or up? And is it in the key of c? or a minor? I'll be glad of the whistle version. Like I said, lmp is ahead of me this time! At lmp's prompting the Rohan group has moved forward another day (to morning of Dec 14.) As always posts can be inserted if need be. Ædegard doesn't dare ask Amroth to open the morning's game-- so who's next, Ædegard or Liornung? Or Bellyn? Speaking of Bellyn, she shyly mentioned the Lay of Nimrodel after her opening song, and I had a mental image of the Valar (Mandos and Lorien) clapping their hands over Amroth's ears as she said it. I guess we'll say that Amroth was temporarily distracted by Valarish interference. However, Ædegard, Bellyn, and Liornung please feel free to discuss it. The topic will come up, repeatedly I'm sure; but the Valar are not allowing Amroth to "remember" the intervening 1000 years, and he will always (always) draw a blank about them. He thinks the storm was a few months ago, and he doesn't remember his swim to shore very well (for instance that it was ill-fated.) He doesn't quite relate that to the dreams. Alaklondewen, this will be a challenge for Erebemlin to deal with. Osanwe will convince Amroth that Erebemlin isn't pulling a fast one on him; but Amroth won't grasp the significance of the 1000-year gap. He'll just keep saying that he has to find her. His stubborness and Valar-driven mental block will seem like stupidity at times, or perhaps worse. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

04-14-2004, 08:56 PM	#6
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Imladris, we can debate the use of the phrase "Bad Form" over the next few posts... after I eventually finish chuckling. What a great post! Can't wait to read Ravion's response. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

04-15-2004, 12:14 PM	#7
Nurumaiel Vice of Twilight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: on a mountain Posts: 1,121	Songs and tunes Helen, I can't answer your questions at the moment but I'll let you know that I've recorded Fair Maid of Gondor on tin whistle and it's just a matter of moving it to this computer and putting it on a webpage. I'll let you know when it's up. There's also one other tune I have done that sounds lovely with the tin whistle and guitar merged. I don't know about my voice, however. I'm having a difficult time getting the hang of how to sing it well and in a way that it will match the tin whistle perfectly when put together. I'll work at it, though! I've posted for Liornung and he's sung a new song..... he's writing songs too fast! I can't come up with the tunes, let alone record them. I really need to get a mic on my computer so I can lock myself up all day and work at it. Liornung has started the day's game! Who wants to go next? __________________ In the fury of the moment I can see the Master's hand in every leaf that trembles, in every grain of sand.

04-14-2004, 06:50 PM	#3
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I sang it! I did, I did. Helen can promise you that I know how. I almost did the same thing to her on YIM that you put on this thread. What a lively tune!

04-14-2004, 08:24 PM	#5
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	I posted for Aeron and Gwyllion, and I do hope my post wasn't too terribly confusing... I took the liberty of hastening it to the morning, but after I posted the post I realized that I probably shouldn't have done that because of this confusing time travel thing. If I have done wrong, let me know. However, I do hope that you will forgive the numerous "Bad Forms" references that I borrowed from Peter Pan, and the highly used (probably over used) stunt of using a burning blade from PotC....but I couldn't resist, Mate. I wondered if I should use the Bad Form because it is Peter Pan...but then I didn't think it sounded too modern for LotR. But I am just an amateur so please correct me if I was mistaken and I will gladly edit to something else. Cheers, Istawen

04-15-2004, 12:16 PM	#8
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	minor (and new major) characters Nuru-- Lovely, lovely, LOVELY!! Tapestry Team-- Recently the question came up "is it okay if I introduce anther character". The answer is, for all of us, a resounding Yes. This is Gondor-- so create, develop, carry, and kill off major and minor characters as you see fit! If the rest of us are horrified by something canon-hostile we will say something (won't we.) But this is your story as well as "mine"; own it. Own your characters-- as many as you want to carry, for as long as you need them. If you are interested in "The Other Thread" (Ædegard's or Ravion's, whichever you're absent from) and wish you were involved, then invent a plausible character and go investigate there. (Before you kill off somebody else's character, perhaps it's best to ask.) Plot twists are what make Gondor so much fun. Don't be shy. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.