Best MORTAL fighter - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Voralphion · 03-30-2004, 06:45 PM

It is hard to say if those of the paths of the dead count as great warriors because I don't think they didn't do any real fighting. All fled before them and ran away, leaving all the real killing to Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and the ranges of the north. Legolas said, that he didn't know if the swords of the dead could still bite, (Not an exact quote). In the movie they fought, but in the books they didn't.
Frodo and Sam definately shouldn't be included in this category as they weren't really great fighters. They did do a great deed, one that shows they had great valour and courage, but not that they were good fighters.

Boromir88 · 03-31-2004, 01:57 PM

Yes, very true the dead army was just used as a "scare tactic," who just scared all the corsairs off their ships.

If my memory serves correct Aragorn not only with gimli, legolas, and the dunedain also used the 50 ships and gathered men from Lossarnach. That is why Forlong only sent 500 men at first to Minas Tirith because he thought the corsairs would attack Lossarnach so he left a lot of his force there.

Amrod the Hunter · 11-27-2004, 01:08 PM

Definetly Hurin who killed 70 trolls and a large amount of orcs before they captured him and his son,Turin,who was a great fighter,but he didn't have luck and in the end he went mad.

Carrûn · 11-27-2004, 07:13 PM

My vote has to go to Hurin, if for no other reason than in "Of the Ruin of Doriath" Tolkien writes "But it is said that Hurin would not live thereafter, being bereft of all purpose and desire, and cast himself at last into the western sea; and so ended the mightiest of the warriors of mortal Men."

I guess you could take that to mean several different things, but I'll use it in its literal form.

rutslegolas · 11-27-2004, 11:37 PM

Well Hurin will be always ranked first in my book and then Aragorn , Isildur ,Elendil.

But what about Anarion ,is there anything mentioned in the books anywhere anout his fighting skills.But I think they were right up there with Isildur .

Lachwen · 11-27-2004, 11:50 PM

Jeez, talk about the underappreciated younger brother! What about Huor? Sure, he may not have killed seventy Trolls like his big brother, but he was still no pansy! And, from what I gather of him from the Silmarillion, I think that, had that venomed arrow missed its mark, Huor would have stood beside Húrin until the very end and added some of his own to the count of slain Trolls.

03-30-2004, 06:45 PM	#1
Voralphion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sharkey's End Posts: 267	It is hard to say if those of the paths of the dead count as great warriors because I don't think they didn't do any real fighting. All fled before them and ran away, leaving all the real killing to Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and the ranges of the north. Legolas said, that he didn't know if the swords of the dead could still bite, (Not an exact quote). In the movie they fought, but in the books they didn't. Frodo and Sam definately shouldn't be included in this category as they weren't really great fighters. They did do a great deed, one that shows they had great valour and courage, but not that they were good fighters. __________________ His sword was long his lance was keen His shining helm afar was seen The countless stars of heavens field Were mirrored in his silver shield

03-31-2004, 01:57 PM	#2
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Voralphion Yes, very true the dead army was just used as a "scare tactic," who just scared all the corsairs off their ships. If my memory serves correct Aragorn not only with gimli, legolas, and the dunedain also used the 50 ships and gathered men from Lossarnach. That is why Forlong only sent 500 men at first to Minas Tirith because he thought the corsairs would attack Lossarnach so he left a lot of his force there.

11-27-2004, 07:13 PM	#4
Carrûn Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Behind you, counting to 3 Posts: 234	My vote has to go to Hurin, if for no other reason than in "Of the Ruin of Doriath" Tolkien writes "But it is said that Hurin would not live thereafter, being bereft of all purpose and desire, and cast himself at last into the western sea; and so ended the mightiest of the warriors of mortal Men." I guess you could take that to mean several different things, but I'll use it in its literal form. __________________ "Dic, hospes, Spartae, nos te hic vidisse iacentes dum sanctis patriae legibus obsequimur."

11-27-2004, 11:37 PM	#5
rutslegolas Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In Elven Lands of India Posts: 533	Well Hurin will be always ranked first in my book and then Aragorn , Isildur ,Elendil. But what about Anarion ,is there anything mentioned in the books anywhere anout his fighting skills.But I think they were right up there with Isildur . __________________ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with the bull - The Phantom.

11-27-2004, 11:50 PM	#6
Lachwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greenwood the Great. Posts: 115	Jeez, talk about the underappreciated younger brother! What about Huor? Sure, he may not have killed seventy Trolls like his big brother, but he was still no pansy! And, from what I gather of him from the Silmarillion, I think that, had that venomed arrow missed its mark, Huor would have stood beside Húrin until the very end and added some of his own to the count of slain Trolls. __________________ "'...Home is the sailor, home from the sea, And the hunter home from the hill.'"

11-27-2004, 01:08 PM	#3
Amrod the Hunter Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dol Amroth Posts: 54	Definetly Hurin who killed 70 trolls and a large amount of orcs before they captured him and his son,Turin,who was a great fighter,but he didn't have luck and in the end he went mad.