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Enorëiel · 03-25-2004, 06:58 PM

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Actually, I was wondering why Sauron the Spotlight did not seem
to respond to seeing Frodo in Mordor...yes, I did see his "light"
shine upon him.

That is something that reallly bugged me. I liked the idea of "the eye" until ROTK came around and they added a spotlight to it. I nearly started to laugh when I saw it for the first time. I get that it was supposed to be "all seeing" but the spotlight was a bit much for me. Also, you'd think that the eye of Sauron would have reacted to seeing Frodo, yeah so he didn't know WHY he was in Mordor but all the same you'd think he might assume as much.

The Only Real Estel · 05-08-2004, 07:21 PM

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Also, you'd think that the eye of Sauron would have reacted to seeing Frodo, yeah so he didn't know WHY he was in Mordor but all the same you'd think he might assume as much.

Even if he didn't guess why the hobbit was in Mordor, he wouldn't have just let him be.
The lightbeam was ridiculous, but Sauron not acting on seeing Frodo was much worse. O wait, I forgot, Frodo eluded the eye by falling to the ground & blending in with the rocks

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(not to mention the fact that, even if Sauron would've somehow not seen him at first, that drunken dance he does before losing his balance would draw attention to him faster than you can say 'stupid')

Esgallhugwen · 05-08-2004, 07:45 PM

I actually really liked to the Eye in the first two movies and very much enjoyed how they made Sauron in the Prologue, but in ROTK I found the twitchy lighthouse to be ridiculous, and stupid.

I laughed when the tower fell over and the pupil was dilating and constricting in a very laughable way, like *oh crap oh crap I'm falling and theres nothing I can do!* And I really think that when the tower was destroyed that I shoudn't have found it comical. And the beam of light what the heck was that all about?

I believe that having Sauron appear as a black cloud type figure then being swept away by the wind would have worked very well in the movie version. Who knows I might have even found the twitchyness to be tolerable, (except when the tower falls over, something else should have happened like the eye just disappearing or going up in a spiral of flame than doing the black cloud thing) if it wasn't for Sauron The Lighthouse.

Laitoste · 05-26-2004, 05:05 PM

In the first movie: Great! I loved it.

In the second movie: He's not just an eye! Gollum talks about him having fingers. Last time I checked, eyes don't have fingers. Anyway, how's he gonna use the ring with no fingers. I suppose that, since his eye was more of a pointy oval (instead of a circle~it's called an eyeball for a reason, folks!), he could get it over an end...

In the third movie: Okay, this is just PATHETIC! What happened to peripheral vision, anyway? It doesn't look like he has any.

That's my view. The flashes used in the first movie were awesome. I jump everytime. I realize that it would have been implausible to continue that into the second and third movie, but being a giant eyeball (or should I say eye-football?) really has no tactical advantage except being able to see better. It would have worked better if they said that it was part of Sauron (or something to that extent) and cut out the lighthouse act.

Morsul the Dark · 06-02-2004, 06:44 PM

i think it was well-done...the spotlight was merely to show how he got distracted...i think he did see frodo but he didnt guess his purpose and was merely pulled away before being able to think about it...

The Only Real Estel · 06-02-2004, 08:06 PM

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i think it was well-done...the spotlight was merely to show how he got distracted

If that part of your quote was serious, here's my response to it

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It showed how he got distracted, but it also was foolish. Sauron is all-seeing (nearly), & wouldn't have his sight concentrated in a beam like that for any reason. If they wanted to show that he was distracted, they could've just shown his eye swiveling towards the Gate. Just leave out the beam though.

Kath · 06-04-2004, 09:43 AM

The eye of Sauron was actually quite a disappointment in the film, especially in the third. I loved the way he was portrayed in FotR but in RotK PJ seemed to have just stopped caring about making it look at all realistic. It was weird that it stopped on Frodo for that long and yet apparently did not see him, also if he is all powerful (though i could be making that bit up) he wouldn't need to skim his eye over his entire land as he would know what was happening in it anyway!
Anyway, apologies for the complaining.

Morsul the Dark · 06-04-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Only Real Estel

If that part of your quote was serious, here's my response to it

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It showed how he got distracted, but it also was foolish. Sauron is all-seeing (nearly), & wouldn't have his sight concentrated in a beam like that for any reason. If they wanted to show that he was distracted, they could've just shown his eye swiveling towards the Gate. Just leave out the beam though, for gosh sake!

just because he is all seeing doesnt mean he sees everything at every second he was merelyy concentrating on one thing plus americans would have been to dumb to relize what was going on it the eye merely moved it was to build tention

03-25-2004, 06:58 PM	#1
Enorëiel Wight Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hobbiton, U.S.A. Posts: 165	Quote: Actually, I was wondering why Sauron the Spotlight did not seem to respond to seeing Frodo in Mordor...yes, I did see his "light" shine upon him. That is something that reallly bugged me. I liked the idea of "the eye" until ROTK came around and they added a spotlight to it. I nearly started to laugh when I saw it for the first time. I get that it was supposed to be "all seeing" but the spotlight was a bit much for me. Also, you'd think that the eye of Sauron would have reacted to seeing Frodo, yeah so he didn't know WHY he was in Mordor but all the same you'd think he might assume as much. __________________ You can take a hobbit out of the Shire but you can't take the Shire out of a hobbit. Whoever said "Nothing is impossible" never tried to slam a revolving door.

05-08-2004, 07:45 PM	#3
Esgallhugwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Where the Moon cries against the snow Posts: 526	I actually really liked to the Eye in the first two movies and very much enjoyed how they made Sauron in the Prologue, but in ROTK I found the twitchy lighthouse to be ridiculous, and stupid. I laughed when the tower fell over and the pupil was dilating and constricting in a very laughable way, like oh crap oh crap I'm falling and theres nothing I can do! And I really think that when the tower was destroyed that I shoudn't have found it comical. And the beam of light what the heck was that all about? I believe that having Sauron appear as a black cloud type figure then being swept away by the wind would have worked very well in the movie version. Who knows I might have even found the twitchyness to be tolerable, (except when the tower falls over, something else should have happened like the eye just disappearing or going up in a spiral of flame than doing the black cloud thing) if it wasn't for Sauron The Lighthouse. __________________ "...for the sin of the idolater is not that he worships stone, but that he worships one stone over others. -8:9:4 The Witness of Fane"

05-26-2004, 05:05 PM	#4
Laitoste Wight Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Behind the hills Posts: 164	In the first movie: Great! I loved it. In the second movie: He's not just an eye! Gollum talks about him having fingers. Last time I checked, eyes don't have fingers. Anyway, how's he gonna use the ring with no fingers. I suppose that, since his eye was more of a pointy oval (instead of a circle~it's called an eyeball for a reason, folks!), he could get it over an end... In the third movie: Okay, this is just PATHETIC! What happened to peripheral vision, anyway? It doesn't look like he has any. That's my view. The flashes used in the first movie were awesome. I jump everytime. I realize that it would have been implausible to continue that into the second and third movie, but being a giant eyeball (or should I say eye-football?) really has no tactical advantage except being able to see better. It would have worked better if they said that it was part of Sauron (or something to that extent) and cut out the lighthouse act. __________________ "If we're still alive in the morning, we'll know that we're not dead."~South Park

06-02-2004, 06:44 PM	#5
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	i think it was well-done...the spotlight was merely to show how he got distracted...i think he did see frodo but he didnt guess his purpose and was merely pulled away before being able to think about it... __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

06-04-2004, 09:43 AM	#7
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	The eye of Sauron was actually quite a disappointment in the film, especially in the third. I loved the way he was portrayed in FotR but in RotK PJ seemed to have just stopped caring about making it look at all realistic. It was weird that it stopped on Frodo for that long and yet apparently did not see him, also if he is all powerful (though i could be making that bit up) he wouldn't need to skim his eye over his entire land as he would know what was happening in it anyway! Anyway, apologies for the complaining. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”