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Old 03-22-2004, 10:32 AM   #1
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Apology accepted Feanor.

Even if I do take the opposite view from you, that Jackson's Sauron was poor.
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Old 03-23-2004, 03:26 PM   #2
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Let me clarify: I like the eyeball spotlight thing because of how else it could have been. Just think of all the other ways PJ could have portrayed Sauron... I won't even go into detail, but think along the lines of a really big ringwraith with a very deep voice and sparkly powers.

Personally, I never thought of the Eye as being a tangible thing... I always saw it as his "inner eye", so to speak. Sauron's power, in concentrated form. His spiritual side more than anything... so when I first saw an actual firey eye floating above Mordor... Needless to say I was shocked. But after I got used to it, it started to make a bit of sense. Of course... We , as dedicated Tolkienites (ie: obsessive addicts) could have done a better job...

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Old 03-23-2004, 03:33 PM   #3
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I'll have to agree with Feanor on this one. I like the eye, rather than the cloud that looked like sauron or something like that in the books. (I can't seem to remeber exactly what happened in the books...) But I thought it would have been better if the eye wasn't squirming around like it was, for all of the first two movies it never moved, and all of a sudden it's jumping about.
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:02 PM   #4
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I found Sauron's ending in the movie to be unfortunate at best and ridiculous at worst. Not only did the shifty imploding eye look strange and almost laughable, but it was also deceptive to moviegoers not familiar with Tolkien's works. Why couldn't PJ just have had Sauron in physical form for his demise, or at least stick with the text in "Mount Doom" by having the ghastly shadow of Sauron rise up and be swept away by the wind?
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Old 03-25-2004, 06:58 PM   #5
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Actually, I was wondering why Sauron the Spotlight did not seem
to respond to seeing Frodo in Mordor...yes, I did see his "light"
shine upon him.

That is something that reallly bugged me. I liked the idea of "the eye" until ROTK came around and they added a spotlight to it. I nearly started to laugh when I saw it for the first time. I get that it was supposed to be "all seeing" but the spotlight was a bit much for me. Also, you'd think that the eye of Sauron would have reacted to seeing Frodo, yeah so he didn't know WHY he was in Mordor but all the same you'd think he might assume as much.
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Old 05-08-2004, 07:21 PM   #6
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Also, you'd think that the eye of Sauron would have reacted to seeing Frodo, yeah so he didn't know WHY he was in Mordor but all the same you'd think he might assume as much.
Even if he didn't guess why the hobbit was in Mordor, he wouldn't have just let him be.
The lightbeam was ridiculous, but Sauron not acting on seeing Frodo was much worse. O wait, I forgot, Frodo eluded the eye by falling to the ground & blending in with the rocks .

(not to mention the fact that, even if Sauron would've somehow not seen him at first, that drunken dance he does before losing his balance would draw attention to him faster than you can say 'stupid')
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Old 05-08-2004, 07:45 PM   #7
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The Eye

I actually really liked to the Eye in the first two movies and very much enjoyed how they made Sauron in the Prologue, but in ROTK I found the twitchy lighthouse to be ridiculous, and stupid.

I laughed when the tower fell over and the pupil was dilating and constricting in a very laughable way, like *oh crap oh crap I'm falling and theres nothing I can do!* And I really think that when the tower was destroyed that I shoudn't have found it comical. And the beam of light what the heck was that all about?

I believe that having Sauron appear as a black cloud type figure then being swept away by the wind would have worked very well in the movie version. Who knows I might have even found the twitchyness to be tolerable, (except when the tower falls over, something else should have happened like the eye just disappearing or going up in a spiral of flame than doing the black cloud thing) if it wasn't for Sauron The Lighthouse.
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Old 05-26-2004, 05:05 PM   #8
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In the first movie: Great! I loved it.

In the second movie: He's not just an eye! Gollum talks about him having fingers. Last time I checked, eyes don't have fingers. Anyway, how's he gonna use the ring with no fingers. I suppose that, since his eye was more of a pointy oval (instead of a circle~it's called an eyeball for a reason, folks!), he could get it over an end...

In the third movie: Okay, this is just PATHETIC! What happened to peripheral vision, anyway? It doesn't look like he has any.

That's my view. The flashes used in the first movie were awesome. I jump everytime. I realize that it would have been implausible to continue that into the second and third movie, but being a giant eyeball (or should I say eye-football?) really has no tactical advantage except being able to see better. It would have worked better if they said that it was part of Sauron (or something to that extent) and cut out the lighthouse act.
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