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Finwe · 03-17-2004, 07:47 PM

I don't think that the Mouth of Sauron was referring to the Elendilmir when he said "...elvish glass..." The Elendilmir is not so much Elvish is it is of the Dunedain. The Elessar would be considered a "piece of elvish glass," much more so than the Elendilmir, which is distinctly Mannish.

Besides, the Mouth distinctly said that it takes more than a piece of elvish glass to make a king. Just what is this king-making? Aragorn would most likely have challenged Sauron through the palantir while introducing himself as Elessar, Heir of Isildur, etc. Sauron would have realized that Aragorn must have received the Elessar through Galadriel, and used that to assume the name of Elessar.

And yes, Aragorn used the name before the people of Gondor officially gave him the name. He used it when he introduced himself to Eomer in Rohan.

03-17-2004, 07:47 PM	#21
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	I don't think that the Mouth of Sauron was referring to the Elendilmir when he said "...elvish glass..." The Elendilmir is not so much Elvish is it is of the Dunedain. The Elessar would be considered a "piece of elvish glass," much more so than the Elendilmir, which is distinctly Mannish. Besides, the Mouth distinctly said that it takes more than a piece of elvish glass to make a king. Just what is this king-making? Aragorn would most likely have challenged Sauron through the palantir while introducing himself as Elessar, Heir of Isildur, etc. Sauron would have realized that Aragorn must have received the Elessar through Galadriel, and used that to assume the name of Elessar. And yes, Aragorn used the name before the people of Gondor officially gave him the name. He used it when he introduced himself to Eomer in Rohan. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.