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doug*platypus · 12-21-2003, 10:07 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Frodo does not push Gollum. He and Gollum trip and fall as they fight for possession of the Ring. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think that pretty much amounts to the same thing. movieFrodo does have some hand in Gollum's demise, as Gollum is not in any danger of falling on his own. I agree with pandora, now (thag you very buch for that post!) that it was a mistake to have Frodo involved in Sméagol's death, although it was Ring-crazy Frodo. It's shockingly similar to the murder of Denethor by Gandalf and Shadowfax.I think this gets tacked on to the ever-growing list of injustices done to Frodo by the movie. I have started to read the books again. I'm past the part where Frodo speaks High Quenya to Gildor and his company and is called an elf-friend by them and by Goldberry. Frodo has already saved his three friends from death in the barrow, and performed two (count 'em, two!) songs. I guess soon I'll reach the chapters where he stabs the Witch-king, saving his life and the quest, and attempts to defy all nine of the Nazgûl at the ford. Alas! for movieFrodo!!

12-21-2003, 10:07 PM	#22
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Frodo does not push Gollum. He and Gollum trip and fall as they fight for possession of the Ring. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think that pretty much amounts to the same thing. movieFrodo does have some hand in Gollum's demise, as Gollum is not in any danger of falling on his own. I agree with pandora, now (thag you very buch for that post!) that it was a mistake to have Frodo involved in Sméagol's death, although it was Ring-crazy Frodo. It's shockingly similar to the murder of Denethor by Gandalf and Shadowfax.<P>I think this gets tacked on to the ever-growing list of injustices done to Frodo by the movie. I have started to read the books again. I'm past the part where Frodo speaks High Quenya to Gildor and his company and is called an elf-friend by them and by Goldberry. Frodo has already saved his three friends from death in the barrow, and performed <B>two</B> (count 'em, two!) songs. I guess soon I'll reach the chapters where he stabs the Witch-king, saving his life and the quest, and attempts to defy all nine of the Nazgûl at the ford. <B>Alas! for movieFrodo!!</B> __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.