Sauron vs Gandalf and Aragorn in RotK? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-09-2003, 07:14 PM

Another Spoiler Ahoy . . . . . . . . . . . <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> But I can tell you from first hand experience (although it does mean blowing my own trumpet a bit) that Sauron DOES appear, and fights Aragorn one on one. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>From what I have read from reports on the previews, these scenes will not be in the film. Indeed, Sauron apparently has no physical presence at all (although his eye does seemingly become a searchlight ), and I have read reports suggesting that this does lessen his impact as the major villain somewhat.More surprising is the absence of the Mouth of Sauron at the Black Gate in the theatrical version. The same reports suggest that the absence of any major villain at the Black Gate does make the Battle there a touch anti-climactic. Although the real climax, of course, takes place at Sammath Naur, and I suspect that Jackson did not want to detract from that. By all accounts, though, the Mouth will be there in the Extended Edition (although, I suspect, no Sauron).The main villain of this film seems to be the Witch-King, although he of course meets his fate on the Pelennor. Apparently some large and mishapen Orc by the name of Gothmog (ring any bells? ) takes over from him, although I don't know whether he'll be at the Black Gate.By the way, Doug, why don't you tell us how you looked as an Orc so that we can try to spot you at the Black Gate?

12-09-2003, 07:14 PM	#21
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	<B>Another Spoiler Ahoy</B><BR>.<BR>.<BR>.<BR>.<BR>.<BR>.<BR>.<BR>.<BR>.<BR >.<BR>.<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> But I can tell you from first hand experience (although it does mean blowing my own trumpet a bit) that Sauron DOES appear, and fights Aragorn one on one. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>From what I have read from reports on the previews, these scenes will not be in the film. Indeed, Sauron apparently has no physical presence at all (although his eye does seemingly become a searchlight ), and I have read reports suggesting that this does lessen his impact as the major villain somewhat.<P>More surprising is the absence of the Mouth of Sauron at the Black Gate in the theatrical version. The same reports suggest that the absence of any major villain at the Black Gate does make the Battle there a touch anti-climactic. Although the real climax, of course, takes place at Sammath Naur, and I suspect that Jackson did not want to detract from that. By all accounts, though, the Mouth will be there in the Extended Edition (although, I suspect, no Sauron).<P>The main villain of this film seems to be the Witch-King, although he of course meets his fate on the Pelennor. Apparently some large and mishapen Orc by the name of Gothmog (ring any bells? ) takes over from him, although I don't know whether he'll be at the Black Gate.<P>By the way, Doug, why don't you tell us how you looked as an Orc so that we can try to spot you at the Black Gate? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!