The Examples of Dumbing - Down - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

**lindil** · 08-28-2003, 11:05 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> What possible reason could there be for going off in the entirely opposite direction??? (Btw there may have been some reason given in the film, but I can't remember it and I don't have the dvd. If anyone can remember any explanation in the film, could they please give it?) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>well the sad justification, and I hate to make one for PJ believe me, is that Eomer had been exiled and was heading out of town and just happened to come across the Orcs on his wa to greener pastures ... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Yes! I've complained of this elsewhere. Elijah has nowhere left to go for RotK. More wooziness and eye-rolling at the foot of Mt. Doom? Blah. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Very true. I am listening to TTT now as I post, and had too say every five or so minutes to my Tolkien illiterate wife 'this is a fabrication', that didn't happen', etc. Gurdjieff hypothesised quite accurately imo, that as things move farther from their source and begining, that with out specific infusions from an higher order events will deteriorate.This is clear in the movies, where it is carried by what fidelity to the script their is, the execellence of certain actors who actually have being [ Viggo, Kate Blanchett, McKellan] and the nature itself.Where we are witness to PJ's 'interpretation' we often see dumbing down, poor directing and generally a 'sliding down the scale/octave '. It is a testimony to the greatness of the LotR that it survives as well as it does!

08-28-2003, 11:05 PM	#11
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> What possible reason could there be for going off in the entirely opposite direction??? (Btw there may have been some reason given in the film, but I can't remember it and I don't have the dvd. If anyone can remember any explanation in the film, could they please give it?) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>well the sad justification, and I hate to make one for PJ believe me, is that Eomer had been exiled and was heading out of town and just happened to come across the Orcs on his wa to greener pastures ...<P><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Yes! I've complained of this elsewhere. Elijah has nowhere left to go for RotK. More wooziness and eye-rolling at the foot of Mt. Doom? Blah. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Very true. <P>I am listening to TTT now as I post, and had too say every five or so minutes to my Tolkien illiterate wife 'this is a fabrication', that didn't happen', etc.<BR>Gurdjieff<BR>hypothesised quite accurately imo, that as things move farther from their source and begining, that with out specific infusions from an higher order events will deteriorate.<P>This is clear in the movies, where it is carried by what fidelity to the script their is, the execellence of certain actors who actually have being [ Viggo, Kate Blanchett, McKellan] and the nature itself.<P>Where we are witness to PJ's 'interpretation' we often see dumbing down, poor directing and generally a 'sliding down the scale/octave<BR>'.<BR>It is a testimony to the greatness of the LotR that it survives as well as it does! __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.