Lord of the Ring 4? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Baran · 06-11-2003, 11:01 AM

I've heard some strange rumors about a new Lord of the Ring movie after the Return of the King. It's supposed to take place after the war is won. Does anyone else know something about this?

Duncariel · 06-11-2003, 11:08 AM

How? Unless they put all the stuff in it that they took out in the original three, there is no material for a fourth movie.Lost Tales, maybe.

Orofaniel · 06-11-2003, 11:10 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I've heard some strange rumors about a new Lord of the Ring movie after the Return of the King. It's supposed to take place after the war is won. Does anyone else know something about this? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hm...interesting...I've never heard that, though....Only that they perhaps are going to make a movie from "The Hobbit". That can also be rumors for all I know.....I'll guess we'll just have to wait and see! OrofânielWait and see, that's how it's supposed to be!

Meela · 06-11-2003, 11:19 AM

A fourth movie would be interesting. What would it include? The children of the original characters? Like Eldarion, Elanor, Elboron, Elfwine, etc. and their adventures? The Children of the Fellowship find a new ring... *dun dun duuuuunnn!*

HCIsland · 06-11-2003, 12:11 PM

I'm pretty sure Jackson has explicitly stated that he would not be involved in any sequel, for the obvious reason that there is no material to base it on. As anyone who's at all familiar with the book knows, Frodo is no longer in Middle Earth at the end. How can you make a movie when the lead character is gone?Of course, New Line does own the rights to this and if they wanted to hire some hack, they could do what ever the hell they wanted but I for one am hoping this is nothing more than a rumour.H.C.

Helkahothion · 06-11-2003, 12:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Of course, New Line does own the rights to this and if they wanted to hire some hack, they could do what ever the hell they wanted but I for one am hoping this is nothing more than a rumour. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>They are not stupid. Making a sequel to a book that is not even written is plane suicide. Many people have their own ideas on how it went on. They can't make it another ring one too, since the ring is destroyed. Even if they did it, it would be a boring movie, unless they made it a comedy of course. But another action/adventure movie is not possible. And since lotr is that category, the movie shall be hated by all. The question is now, if they would make that movie, would you go see it?Suilad,Anuion

Sapphire_Flame · 06-11-2003, 12:40 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The question is now, if they would make that movie, would you go see it?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Probably not. They'd have to be pretty desperate if they had to invent a sequel for LotR. Not only would there be no plot, but the writing would most likely suck. I'd stay at home and watch the real movies. Abedithon le!

Estella Brandybuck · 06-11-2003, 01:21 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I've heard some strange rumors about a new Lord of the Ring movie after the Return of the King. It's supposed to take place after the war is won. Does anyone else know something about this?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>If that's true, and Hades has frozen over, these filmmakers are pretty much just speculating on what happens post-WotR and turning it into a movie? Basically... filming a fanfic?Wow, I never thought that would happen.

Gorwingel · 06-11-2003, 01:40 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>They are not stupid. Making a sequel to a book that is not even written is plain suicide.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Haven't you seen some of the stuff that has came out of Hollywood, I wouldn't doubt that New Line would try to find some other way to squeeze more money out of this phenominon.Especially New Line, haven't you seen some of the other movies that they have made. Some of their films have been the worst failures in Hollywood.

Frodo2968thewhite · 06-11-2003, 02:16 PM

PJ is supposed to make The Hobbit after LOTR

Balin999 · 06-11-2003, 02:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> How? Unless they put all the stuff in it that they took out in the original three, there is no material for a fourth movie. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think that was the best post that I've ever read in the whole forum And if there was a fourth movie, I would go see it just because I'd be courious, but I guess I wouldn't like it and think "now why did you go see that stupid thing?"

Horse-Maiden of the Shire · 06-11-2003, 03:44 PM

I think that if the rumour is true, I would do the same: go see it out of curiosity. It would probably be horrible. But I hope PJ makes The Hobbit.

Arathiriel · 06-11-2003, 03:54 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The question is now, if they would make that movie, would you go see it?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No, I wouldn't as seeing as Tolkien wrote nothing they could base said movie off of! [ June 11, 2003: Message edited by: Arathiriel ]

Birdland · 06-11-2003, 08:29 PM

Could you perhaps be thinking of Ancanar? That "other" Middle-earth-like-in-a-way movie that has been in the works for quite a while?There's a thread about it here somewhere, if you care to search...

Morgul Queen · 06-12-2003, 03:22 AM

Actually Tolkien began to write a sequal to LotR, I think it is in Morgoths Ring. It is set about a century after the war of the Ring and Most things are peaceful except for a few groups in Gondor who are modeling themselves after the Orcs, kind of like Demon worship, anyway this just starts to get into the jucy details when it cuts off in mid sentance...jeez, couldn't he have at least finished the SENTANCE!!!!

Mordor_Queen · 06-12-2003, 06:48 AM

maybe the bit at the end of the rotk (after it actually) where aragorn and arwen get married and their deaths and stuff like that.

Balin999 · 06-12-2003, 07:56 AM

So you mean the typical Hollywood movie. Boy meets girl, there are some difficulties, but in the end they are allowed to marry. Of course, PJ will leave the part of their deaths out, and the final sentence will be "And they lived together happily ever on."Cast: Aragorn: Brad Pitt Arwen: Jennifer Lopez (as in Manhattan Love Story)*YERCH*

Lyra Greenleaf · 06-12-2003, 11:53 AM

If (and it's a big "if") they came up with a good, believable story why would it be any worse than any of our RPGs? A lot of them aren't based on anything concrete.

Mattius · 06-12-2003, 02:22 PM

Exactly, it may be a cash in, dis-respectful to Tolkien, his fans and PJ's work but that does not mean it would be a bad movie! It could work (although I seriously doubt it).Personally I hope that The Hobbit movie will be made. Ian McKellen and Holm plus seven dwarves, Smaug and the Battle of the Five Armies- movie heaven no?MattPS- And of course Mirkwood, the Eagles, Men of the Dale and Beorn (played by Arnold Swarzanegger- spelt wrong I know)! Sweet...[ June 12, 2003: Message edited by: Mattius ]

Tinuviel of Denton · 06-12-2003, 08:14 PM

The Terminator as Beorn!? Um, no.I hope they really do make The Hobbit into a live-action movie. The current animated version really doesn't do it justice. And the "elves" gave me fits. (Though that wasn't as bad as the FotR-TTT animated one...)

Cúdae · 06-12-2003, 08:44 PM

Interesting rumour. I hadn't heard it. I had, however, heard a rumour about making the Silmarillion into a movie. I sincerely hope that just a rumour since I have no desire to see one of my favorite books condensed into a movie or two.

Trippo The Hippo · 06-12-2003, 08:45 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Personally I hope that The Hobbit movie will be made. Ian McKellen and Holm plus seven dwarves, Smaug and the Battle of the Five Armies- movie heaven no? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>11 Dwarves I believe. I think the company was 13 in all 11 dwarves 1 wizard 1 hobbit/burglar. I think I would remember if the company was only 9. That would be too odd people would say Tolkien had a fascination for the number 9.Anyway I have wondered how he would fit the end of the characters (For example Gimli's final resting place.)into RotK, without skipping many decades, but certainly small facts like the one in my example are not even close to the amount of material you need to base a movie on.

MYyyPreciousSS · 06-12-2003, 10:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>11 Dwarves I believe. I think the company was 13 in all 11 dwarves 1 wizard 1 hobbit/burglar. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually, there were 13 dwarves. The reason they even wanted Bilbo in the first place was because they didn't want a company of 13, because 13 was an unlucky number. Gandalf did not consider himself part of the company, he was just there to accompany them for a while, thats why he left during the journey.

06-13-2003, 07:16 AM

If they do make a sequel to LotR, it had better be based on something Tolkien has written! And if it whern't, its would be a box office sucksess!Yes, New Line are the same people who will be making Rush Hour 3 and possible countless other Rush Hour sequels, maybe even a prequel just to get a quick buck, but there not that stupid. If another movie where to be made, I hope it is The Hobbit. That would be really cool, but PJ can't make it any time soon, since he will be working on the new King Kong movie.If the Silmarillion be made into a movie in any way, I hope it is only part of the Silmarillion, like Beren and Luthien. Personally, I think Turin Turambar's story would make a better movie than Beren and Luthein. That one guy who played Anikin in Star Wars Episode II could play Turin. It would be a success!

Helkahothion · 06-13-2003, 08:32 AM

I dissagree with you on that. It would be better if you used actors that are not very fameous. It just works better. I saw some pictures of fameous actors playing the lotr characters. Like Sean connery playing gandalf and russel crowe playing aragorn. If you would use the un-femous ones, it would be so much better. But I agree that Turin would make a better story, making the whole silmarillion would be impossible, only the ones that have read the books would understand and further more, in the silm, they sometimes skip parts, so that would lead to more confusion.Suilad,Anuion

Trippo The Hippo · 06-13-2003, 09:50 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Actually, there were 13 dwarves. The reason they even wanted Bilbo in the first place was because they didn't want a company of 13, because 13 was an unlucky number. Gandalf did not consider himself part of the company, he was just there to accompany them for a while, thats why he left during the journey. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah you are probably right. I knew the company was larger then 9, but I was not too positve opn the exact number. Thanks for fixing my mistake. I havn't read the hobbit in a few years.

Tinuviel of Denton · 06-14-2003, 01:46 PM

There would be some sort of weird outcry over the fact that Turin marries his sister though. I do agree that it would make a better movie. Beren and Luthien would be reduced to a sappy love story onscreen. (and we all know I would HATE that.)

Mattius · 06-17-2003, 04:25 PM

The brother marrying the sister, I can just hear the outcry's of horror now from the housewives of middle-America. *Shudders*Yeah I think there is enough to make a Turin film, perhaps it could be called Narn I Hin Hurin- The Tale of the Children of Hurin.It could depict the story from Hurin and the Battle of Unnumbered Tears to his death at Turin's grave. Cate Blanchet could do a narrative before to quickly explain Morgoth and the War of the Jewels.

Tinuviel of Denton · 06-17-2003, 09:39 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> That one guy who played Anikin in Star Wars Episode II could play Turin. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Are you MAD!? No Star Wars actors! There are enough comparisons as it is!I agree with you, Mattius. The housewives of middle-earth--oops, I mean middle-america--would ban the movie because of Nienor/Niniel and Turin's marriage. Not that I personally think it's that great either, but one has to grant that neither of them realized that they were sibs.

06-17-2003, 10:14 PM

no not really. but hey...it might work. but i thought that was already going to be in the ROTK??!?!?!?! hmmmm...i have some reading to do!!!

Balin999 · 06-18-2003, 09:43 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> hat one guy who played Anikin in Star Wars Episode II could play Turin. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Common, that guy is ridiculous! I mean, I always imagined Turin as a fighter with, well muscles and all (not the Schwarzenegger style, but well-trained) and not such a mummy's boy. He looks like a kid, he couldn't play Turin. (I respect your opinion, but to me it sounds impossible)

Finwe · 06-18-2003, 11:04 AM

Definitely not Hayden Christensen! If you guys don't kill me, but could Johnny Depp play Turin? He plays the "brooding guy" well enough. And for Tuor, how about Orlando Bloom? The two could pass for brothers.

06-18-2003, 11:55 AM

Orlando? You fallen out of a tree? That will send all the stupid annoying people scraming: Hey look, Legolas! I'd rather not go to the embarresment of telling the whole theater they are wrong again.Hm, Hurín eh. Muscled, but still fast. Arnold swarzenegger in his Krosan times would be perfect. But since he is all fat and no muscles, hm Maybe (don't shoot me) Vin Diesel. Okay, he talks like a mummy, but the guy never had many lines.Suilad,Anuion

TealDude4 · 06-18-2003, 12:09 PM

Ok, I will explain why I said Hayden Christensen. The aspect of his acting that I like is when bad things are happening to him and he has no idea why. Bacically, thats what happens to Turin a lot.About there being an outcry over Turin accidentally marrying his sister, please excuse my mentioning the parallels to Star Wars, but there was the entire Luke and Liea thing for Star Wars, and nobody said anything about that, but that was the 70s and this is the New Millenium, so things have changed, I guess.

Frodo Brandybuck · 06-18-2003, 12:10 PM

There is enough additional information for a 4th LOTR movie. If you get the huge volume books that contain all the things taken out of the books, and take a look at the time line in the back of the 1 volume lotr book, you have enough to make a 4th movie. Although why PJ would do that no one knows. I also heard that PJ does not currently have any plans for the Hobbit.

06-18-2003, 12:14 PM

Of course you can make a 4th movie. But the movies should also be attracktive for the people that have not read the books. So making a movie about how the shire blossomed again, would not get big bucks, and sadly, that is what the business is all about.Suilad,Anuion

Frodo Brandybuck · 06-18-2003, 12:19 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Trippo the Hippo= Anyway I have wondered how he would fit the end of the characters.(For example Gimli's resting place.)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Gimli has no resting place. When Aragorn died, Legolas built a gray ship and sailed to the undying lands. Gimli was with him. Thus, Gimli has no resting place.

06-18-2003, 12:24 PM

Yes he did. Valinor

Mattius · 06-18-2003, 12:39 PM

Helka's right, he died in Valinor, and unless they let his body rot on the floor, most likely buried him.How about a mini-film of the Scouring of the Shire?

06-18-2003, 12:43 PM

Thanks Matthius BTW, what happened to the other chicken? Killed it? Would not be surprised, he was very dissobedeant at the party.Hm, it could be a movie, but it would be way to short. You would need something more, and for that, there is no further information. Or not reliable enough for that matter. Like I said, the movie must bring in bucks.Suilad,Anuion

06-11-2003, 11:01 AM	#1
Baran Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Mordor/Lothlorien Posts: 71	Lord of the Ring 4? I've heard some strange rumors about a new Lord of the Ring movie after the Return of the King. It's supposed to take place after the war is won. Does anyone else know something about this?

06-11-2003, 11:08 AM	#2
Duncariel Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Land of the Ice and Snow Posts: 226	How? Unless they put all the stuff in it that they took out in the original three, there is no material for a fourth movie.<P>Lost Tales, maybe. __________________ Middle-earth: Insanity "What, the peons aren't trusted?" -- Yazoo, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children

06-11-2003, 11:10 AM	#3
Orofaniel Mighty Mouse of Mordor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lands of the North, where no man can reach.... Posts: 823	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I've heard some strange rumors about a new Lord of the Ring movie after the Return of the King. It's supposed to take place after the war is won. Does anyone else know something about this? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hm...interesting...I've never heard that, though....Only that they perhaps are going to make a movie from "The Hobbit". That can also be rumors for all I know.....I'll guess we'll just have to wait and see!<P> <P>Orofâniel<P>Wait and see, <BR>that's how it's supposed<BR>to be! __________________ I lost my old sig...somehow....screams and shouts ..............What is this?- Now isn't this fun? >_< .....and yes, the jumping mouse is my new avatar. ^_^

06-11-2003, 11:19 AM	#4
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	A fourth movie would be interesting. What would it include? The children of the original characters? Like Eldarion, Elanor, Elboron, Elfwine, etc. and their adventures? The Children of the Fellowship find a new ring... dun dun duuuuunnn! __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

06-11-2003, 12:11 PM	#5
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I'm pretty sure Jackson has explicitly stated that he would not be involved in any sequel, for the obvious reason that there is no material to base it on. As anyone who's at all familiar with the book knows, Frodo is no longer in Middle Earth at the end. How can you make a movie when the lead character is gone?<P>Of course, New Line does own the rights to this and if they wanted to hire some hack, they could do what ever the hell they wanted but I for one am hoping this is nothing more than a rumour.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

06-11-2003, 12:24 PM	#6
Helkahothion Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The inside of Legolas' lungs Posts: 1,005	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Of course, New Line does own the rights to this and if they wanted to hire some hack, they could do what ever the hell they wanted but I for one am hoping this is nothing more than a rumour. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>They are not stupid. Making a sequel to a book that is not even written is plane suicide. Many people have their own ideas on how it went on. They can't make it another ring one too, since the ring is destroyed. Even if they did it, it would be a boring movie, unless they made it a comedy of course. But another action/adventure movie is not possible. And since lotr is that category, the movie shall be hated by all. The question is now, if they would make that movie, would you go see it?<P>Suilad,<P>Anuion

06-11-2003, 12:40 PM	#7
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The question is now, if they would make that movie, would you go see it?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Probably not. They'd have to be pretty desperate if they had to invent a sequel for LotR. Not only would there be no plot, but the writing would most likely suck. I'd stay at home and watch the <I>real</I> movies. <P>Abedithon le! __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

06-11-2003, 01:21 PM	#8
Estella Brandybuck Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Satellite of Love Posts: 73	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I've heard some strange rumors about a new Lord of the Ring movie after the Return of the King. It's supposed to take place after the war is won. Does anyone else know something about this?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>If that's true, and Hades has frozen over, these filmmakers are pretty much just speculating on what happens post-WotR and turning it into a movie? Basically... filming a fanfic?<P>Wow, I never thought that would happen. __________________ "But the Rohirrim sang no more. Death they cried with one voice loud and terrible, and gathering speed like a great tide their battle swept about their fallen king and passed, roaring away southwards." - RotK Do you enjoy reading and writing LotR fanfiction?

06-11-2003, 01:40 PM	#9
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>They are not stupid. Making a sequel to a book that is not even written is plain suicide.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Haven't you seen some of the stuff that has came out of Hollywood, I wouldn't doubt that New Line would try to find some other way to squeeze more money out of this phenominon.<P>Especially New Line, haven't you seen some of the other movies that they have made. Some of their films have been the worst failures in Hollywood. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

06-11-2003, 02:16 PM	#10
Frodo2968thewhite Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Shire Posts: 95	PJ is supposed to make The Hobbit after LOTR __________________ INAGURAL GOLDEN RING MARATHON, OCTOBER 20, 2005!!! FRODO LIVES!!!!

06-11-2003, 02:38 PM	#11
Balin999 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2000 Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon Posts: 493	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> How? Unless they put all the stuff in it that they took out in the original three, there is no material for a fourth movie. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I think that was the best post that I've ever read in the whole forum <P>And if there was a fourth movie, I would go see it just because I'd be courious, but I guess I wouldn't like it and think "now why did you go see that stupid thing?" __________________ ...Nichts ist gelber als Gelb selber... ...The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice, but conformity... ...Everything is possible, except to ski through a revolving door...

06-11-2003, 03:44 PM	#12
Horse-Maiden of the Shire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chillaxin' with Glorfindel-441 miles on the RtR Posts: 1,197	I think that if the rumour is true, I would do the same: go see it out of curiosity. It would probably be horrible. But I hope PJ makes The Hobbit. __________________ "There's a big...machine in the sky...some kind of electric snake...coming straight at us." "Shoot it," said my attorney. "Not yet...I want to study its habits."

06-11-2003, 03:54 PM	#13
Arathiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Blessed Realm Posts: 284	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The question is now, if they would make that movie, would you go see it?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No, I wouldn't as seeing as Tolkien wrote nothing they could base said movie off of!<P> <p>[ June 11, 2003: Message edited by: Arathiriel ] __________________ 'I love him. He's like that, and sometimes it shines through, somehow. But I love him, whether or no.' - Samwise Gamgee

06-11-2003, 08:29 PM	#14
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	Could you perhaps be thinking of <I>Ancanar</I>? That "other" Middle-earth-like-in-a-way movie that has been in the works for quite a while?<P>There's a thread about it here somewhere, if you care to search...

06-12-2003, 03:22 AM	#15
Morgul Queen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dontgonearthe Castle Posts: 414	Actually Tolkien began to write a sequal to LotR, I think it is in Morgoths Ring.<BR>It is set about a century after the war of the Ring and Most things are peaceful except for a few groups in Gondor who are modeling themselves after the Orcs, kind of like Demon worship, anyway this just starts to get into the jucy details when it cuts off in mid sentance...jeez, couldn't he have at least finished the SENTANCE!!!! __________________ Athrabeth is still doing the wave for Boromir the Disco-King Oh...and call me Morgy!

06-12-2003, 06:48 AM	#16
Mordor_Queen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mordor Posts: 53	maybe the bit at the end of the rotk (after it actually) where aragorn and arwen get married and their deaths and stuff like that. __________________ "In place of a Dark Lord you shall have a Queen! Not Dark but beatiful! All shall love me and despair!"-Galadriel

06-12-2003, 07:56 AM	#17
Balin999 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2000 Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon Posts: 493	So you mean the typical Hollywood movie. Boy meets girl, there are some difficulties, but in the end they are allowed to marry. Of course, PJ will leave the part of their deaths out, and the final sentence will be<BR>"And they lived together happily ever on."<P>Cast: Aragorn: Brad Pitt<BR>Arwen: Jennifer Lopez (as in Manhattan Love Story)<P>YERCH __________________ ...Nichts ist gelber als Gelb selber... ...The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice, but conformity... ...Everything is possible, except to ski through a revolving door...

06-12-2003, 11:53 AM	#18
Lyra Greenleaf The Diaphanous Dryad Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: R toL: 531, past the wild path Posts: 1,152	If (and it's a big "if") they came up with a good, believable story why would it be any worse than any of our RPGs? A lot of them aren't based on anything concrete. __________________ “Sylphs of the forest,” I whispered. “Spirits of oak, beech and ash. Dryads of Rowan and hazel, hear us. You who have guided and guarded our every footstep, you who have sheltered our growth, we honour you." the Forbidden Link

06-12-2003, 02:22 PM	#19
Mattius Soul of Fire Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of Steel Posts: 666	Exactly, it may be a cash in, dis-respectful to Tolkien, his fans and PJ's work but that does not mean it would be a bad movie! It could work (although I seriously doubt it).<P>Personally I hope that The Hobbit movie will be made. Ian McKellen and Holm plus seven dwarves, Smaug and the Battle of the Five Armies- movie heaven no?<P>Matt<P>PS- And of course Mirkwood, the Eagles, Men of the Dale and Beorn (played by Arnold Swarzanegger- spelt wrong I know)! Sweet...<p>[ June 12, 2003: Message edited by: Mattius ] __________________ A problem shared is a problem halved, so is your problem really yours or just half of someone else's?

06-12-2003, 08:14 PM	#20
Tinuviel of Denton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amid the hills and dales of the Shire... or not. Posts: 579	The Terminator as Beorn!? Um, no.<P>I hope they really do make The Hobbit into a live-action movie. The current animated version really doesn't do it justice. And the "elves" gave me fits. (Though that wasn't as bad as the FotR-TTT animated one...)

06-12-2003, 08:44 PM	#21
Cúdae Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 160	Interesting rumour. I hadn't heard it. I had, however, heard a rumour about making the Silmarillion into a movie. I sincerely hope that <i>just</i> a rumour since I have no desire to see one of my favorite books condensed into a movie or two. __________________ "And if you listen very hard/ The tune will come to you at last/ When all are one and one is all/ To be a rock and not to roll." --Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven"

06-12-2003, 08:45 PM	#22
Trippo The Hippo Wight Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: somewhere with hippos that say jolly o and wear spectacles Posts: 195	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Personally I hope that The Hobbit movie will be made. Ian McKellen and Holm plus seven dwarves, Smaug and the Battle of the Five Armies- movie heaven no? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>11 Dwarves I believe. I think the company was 13 in all 11 dwarves 1 wizard 1 hobbit/burglar. I think I would remember if the company was only 9. That would be too odd people would say Tolkien had a fascination for the number 9.<P>Anyway I have wondered how he would fit the end of the characters (For example Gimli's final resting place.)into RotK, without skipping many decades, but certainly small facts like the one in my example are not even close to the amount of material you need to base a movie on. __________________ Shouldn't he be the disco steward?

06-12-2003, 10:56 PM	#23
MYyyPreciousSS Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: the Here and Now Posts: 113	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>11 Dwarves I believe. I think the company was 13 in all 11 dwarves 1 wizard 1 hobbit/burglar. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Actually, there were 13 dwarves. The reason they even wanted Bilbo in the first place was because they didn't want a company of 13, because 13 was an unlucky number. Gandalf did not consider himself part of the company, he was just there to accompany them for a while, thats why he left during the journey. __________________ Then the heart of Éowyn changed, or else at last she understood it. And suddenly her winter passed, and the sun shone on her. "My Preciousss" - the line that started the obsession.

06-13-2003, 07:16 AM	#24
tealdude4 Guest Posts: n/a	If they do make a sequel to LotR, it had better be based on something Tolkien has written! And if it whern't, its would be a box office <B>suck</B>sess!<P>Yes, New Line are the same people who will be making Rush Hour 3 and possible countless other Rush Hour sequels, maybe even a prequel just to get a quick buck, but there not that stupid. <P>If another movie where to be made, I hope it is The Hobbit. That would be really cool, but PJ can't make it any time soon, since he will be working on the new King Kong movie.<P>If the Silmarillion be made into a movie in any way, I hope it is only part of the Silmarillion, like Beren and Luthien. Personally, I think Turin Turambar's story would make a better movie than Beren and Luthein. That one guy who played Anikin in Star Wars Episode II could play Turin. It would be a success!

06-13-2003, 08:32 AM	#25
Helkahothion Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The inside of Legolas' lungs Posts: 1,005	I dissagree with you on that. It would be better if you used actors that are not very fameous. It just works better. I saw some pictures of fameous actors playing the lotr characters. Like Sean connery playing gandalf and russel crowe playing aragorn. If you would use the un-femous ones, it would be so much better. <P>But I agree that Turin would make a better story, making the whole silmarillion would be impossible, only the ones that have read the books would understand and further more, in the silm, they sometimes skip parts, so that would lead to more confusion.<P>Suilad,<P>Anuion

06-13-2003, 09:50 AM	#26
Trippo The Hippo Wight Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: somewhere with hippos that say jolly o and wear spectacles Posts: 195	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Actually, there were 13 dwarves. The reason they even wanted Bilbo in the first place was because they didn't want a company of 13, because 13 was an unlucky number. Gandalf did not consider himself part of the company, he was just there to accompany them for a while, thats why he left during the journey. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yeah you are probably right. I knew the company was larger then 9, but I was not too positve opn the exact number. Thanks for fixing my mistake. I havn't read the hobbit in a few years. __________________ Shouldn't he be the disco steward?

06-14-2003, 01:46 PM	#27
Tinuviel of Denton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amid the hills and dales of the Shire... or not. Posts: 579	There would be some sort of weird outcry over the fact that Turin marries his sister though. I do agree that it would make a better movie. Beren and Luthien would be reduced to a sappy love story onscreen. (and we all know I would HATE that.)

06-17-2003, 04:25 PM	#28
Mattius Soul of Fire Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of Steel Posts: 666	The brother marrying the sister, I can just hear the outcry's of horror now from the housewives of middle-America. Shudders<P>Yeah I think there is enough to make a Turin film, perhaps it could be called <B>Narn I Hin Hurin-</B> <I>The Tale of the Children of Hurin</I>.<P>It could depict the story from Hurin and the Battle of Unnumbered Tears to his death at Turin's grave. Cate Blanchet could do a narrative before to quickly explain Morgoth and the War of the Jewels. __________________ A problem shared is a problem halved, so is your problem really yours or just half of someone else's?

06-17-2003, 09:39 PM	#29
Tinuviel of Denton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amid the hills and dales of the Shire... or not. Posts: 579	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> That one guy who played Anikin in Star Wars Episode II could play Turin. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Are you <I><B>MAD</I></B>!? No Star Wars actors! There are enough comparisons as it is!<P>I agree with you, Mattius. The housewives of middle-earth--oops, I mean middle-america--would ban the movie because of Nienor/Niniel and Turin's marriage. Not that I personally think it's that great either, but one has to grant that neither of them realized that they were sibs.

06-17-2003, 10:14 PM	#30
Froda Guest Posts: n/a	no not really. but hey...it might work. but i thought that was already going to be in the ROTK??!?!?!?! hmmmm...i have some reading to do!!!<P>

06-18-2003, 09:43 AM	#31
Balin999 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2000 Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon Posts: 493	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> hat one guy who played Anikin in Star Wars Episode II could play Turin. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Common, that guy is ridiculous! I mean, I always imagined Turin as a fighter with, well muscles and all (not the Schwarzenegger style, but well-trained) and not such a mummy's boy. He looks like a kid, he couldn't play Turin.<BR>(I respect your opinion, but to me it sounds impossible) __________________ ...Nichts ist gelber als Gelb selber... ...The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice, but conformity... ...Everything is possible, except to ski through a revolving door...

06-18-2003, 11:04 AM	#32
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Definitely not Hayden Christensen! If you guys don't kill me, but could Johnny Depp play Turin? He plays the "brooding guy" well enough. And for Tuor, how about Orlando Bloom? The two could pass for brothers. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

06-18-2003, 11:55 AM	#33
helkahothion Guest Posts: n/a	Orlando? You fallen out of a tree? That will send all the stupid annoying people scraming: Hey look, Legolas! I'd rather not go to the embarresment of telling the whole theater they are wrong again.<P>Hm, Hurín eh. Muscled, but still fast. Arnold swarzenegger in his Krosan times would be perfect. But since he is all fat and no muscles, hm Maybe (don't shoot me) Vin Diesel. Okay, he talks like a mummy, but the guy never had many lines.<P>Suilad,<P>Anuion

06-18-2003, 12:09 PM	#34
TealDude4 Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 42	Ok, I will explain why I said Hayden Christensen. The aspect of his acting that I like is when bad things are happening to him and he has no idea why. Bacically, thats what happens to Turin a lot.<P>About there being an outcry over Turin accidentally marrying his sister, please excuse my mentioning the parallels to Star Wars, but there was the entire Luke and Liea thing for Star Wars, and nobody said anything about that, but that was the 70s and this is the New Millenium, so things have changed, I guess. __________________ "I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come, when the courage of men fail. And we forsake our friends, and break all bonds of fellowship. But it is not this day. This day, we fight!"

06-18-2003, 12:10 PM	#35
Frodo Brandybuck Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Numenor Posts: 20	There is enough additional information for a 4th LOTR movie. If you get the huge volume books that contain all the things taken out of the books, and take a look at the time line in the back of the 1 volume lotr book, you have enough to make a 4th movie. Although why PJ would do that no one knows. I also heard that PJ does not currently have any plans for the Hobbit. __________________ I HATED how PJ screwed with Faramir. He perverted him! Faramir was a good guy and PJ made him bad!