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Iarwain · 01-25-2003, 09:04 PM

VERY GOOD!! I like it Davem, but it certainly took a while for you to come to this conclusion. (I was thinking these thoughts less than an hour after I first saw the movie) I will quote myself as I have before: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> With each blow to the defense of Helm's Deep, and each step Frodo took away from Mordor, I looked ahead in my mind to the RotK, and watched the white tower of Minas Tirith crumble, and the armies of Gondor shrivel and fail. I fear now that Frodo will fail in his quest, and that the Morgul army will get past the second circle. Arwen will set sail, and Faramir will be excecuted by Denethor. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I love that paragraph! It expresses my feelings oh so well. Here's another one: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> For those who call this abominable film an "interpretation" by Peter Jackson, I would really like to hear what was written in your copy of LotR. When Frodo gets dragged by an ally-gone-bad about forty miles in the wrong direction to a place where he should never have been, to do things that he would never even considered doing in his greatest ring-fit, I believe that the term "interpretation" can no longer be sensibly used.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And heres some stuff about Faramir: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> It is true that none of the characters are really the same, but that does not mean that we should cease to recognize the film as an attempt at the recreation of the Books. And as a recreation of the book, PJ and Franny did a smelly job indeed. But of course, you say, the characters are being developed to become what they should be. And this is my answer: humans may be susceptable to temptation, but temptation does not rule the human heart. They may be longing for the ring, but they can refuse it also. And if character development has to start from a base character completely devoid of will power, then the part of the character (namely Faramir's part) can pretty much be abandoned and replaced with the non-"wizard's pupil" power hungry guy we see in the film. Character development can shatter plot development.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Of course, I'm over my anger now...Fiery, Iarwain[ January 25, 2003: Message edited by: Iarwain ][ January 25, 2003: Message edited by: Iarwain ]

01-25-2003, 09:04 PM	#11
Iarwain Pugnaciously Primordial Paradox Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Birnham Wood Posts: 800	VERY GOOD!! I like it Davem, but it certainly took a while for you to come to this conclusion. (I was thinking these thoughts less than an hour after I first saw the movie) I will quote myself as I have before:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> With each blow to the defense of Helm's Deep, and each step Frodo took away from Mordor, I looked ahead in my mind to the RotK, and watched the white tower of Minas Tirith crumble, and the armies of Gondor shrivel and fail. I fear now that Frodo will fail in his quest, and that the Morgul army will get past the second circle. Arwen will set sail, and Faramir will be excecuted by Denethor. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I love that paragraph! It expresses my feelings oh so well. Here's another one:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> For those who call this abominable film an "interpretation" by Peter Jackson, I would really like to hear what was written in your copy of LotR. When Frodo gets dragged by an ally-gone-bad about forty miles in the wrong direction to a place where he should never have been, to do things that he would never even considered doing in his greatest ring-fit, I believe that the term "interpretation" can no longer be sensibly used.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And heres some stuff about Faramir:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> It is true that none of the characters are really the same, but that does not mean that we should cease to recognize the film as an attempt at the recreation of the Books. And as a recreation of the book, PJ and Franny did a smelly job indeed. But of course, you say, the characters are being developed to become what they should be. And this is my answer: humans may be susceptable to temptation, but temptation does not rule the human heart. They may be longing for the ring, but they can refuse it also. And if character development has to start from a base character completely devoid of will power, then the part of the character (namely Faramir's part) can pretty much be abandoned and replaced with the non-"wizard's pupil" power hungry guy we see in the film. Character development can shatter plot development.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Of course, I'm over my anger now...<P>Fiery,<BR>Iarwain<P>[ January 25, 2003: Message edited by: Iarwain ]<p>[ January 25, 2003: Message edited by: Iarwain ] __________________ "And what are oaths but words we say to God?"