The Portrayal of Faramir - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nurumaiel · 01-30-2003, 10:21 PM

I am in agreement with you, Deiagorn. I am actually writing a story on this how I saw Faramir when I watched the movies, if any of you are interested. It's finished, but not done, if you take my meaning. There are still some parts I am redoing to make it even better.For those of you who say Faramir let them go because Frodo was offering the Ring to the Nazgul, there are two things I'd like to say...1. He wasn't offering the Ring to the Nazgul. If you look, he's actually putting it on. When I first saw the movie I did think he was offering it to the Nazgul, which made me upset (thinking, "Stupid Frodo! What's that for?" ) but on second viewing I realized he was putting the Ring on his finger (of course, Sam luckily stepped in just then).2. How do you know it was Frodo offering (though he wasn't) the Ring to the Nazgul that changed Faramir's mind? When I saw the movie, it was Sam who gave him a change of heart (which my story explains, and, BTW, that's what I saw, not necessarily what did change him). I admit Faramir was not perfect, because, no, he wasn't. But I think it was the whole 'The Ring is going to Gondor' deal that made people see him as a 'badguy.' Of course, I may be wrong, I don't have your eyes or minds. But pretend you're watching the movie and Faramir doesn't bring the hobbits to Osgiliath. Does he seem more of a better person now?I read HC's post on the official Osgiliath thread explaining some reasons why PJ might had Faramir take the hobbits to Osgiliath, and I agree with him.I'm kind of unhappy because many people say Faramir was destroyed. Was he really destroyed, utterly ruined? Was there nothing noble and good about him? He did contrast greatly with his brother. He let them go, while Frodo ran away from Boromir.Navaer, mellynen! I do hope I haven't offended anyone. Remember, nothing I said is a fact (well, with the exception of a few things, like Frodo not offering the Ring to the Nazgul); it's all my opinions and views on the whole matter.

01-30-2003, 10:21 PM	#22
Nurumaiel Vice of Twilight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: on a mountain Posts: 1,121	I am in agreement with you, Deiagorn. I am actually writing a story on this how <I>I</I> saw Faramir when I watched the movies, if any of you are interested. It's finished, but not done, if you take my meaning. There are still some parts I am redoing to make it even better.<P>For those of you who say Faramir let them go because Frodo was offering the Ring to the Nazgul, there are two things I'd like to say...<P>1. He <I>wasn't</I> offering the Ring to the Nazgul. If you look, he's actually putting it on. When I first saw the movie I <I>did</I> think he was offering it to the Nazgul, which made me upset (thinking, "Stupid Frodo! What's that for?" ) but on second viewing I realized he was putting the Ring on his finger (of course, Sam luckily stepped in just then).<P>2. How do you know it was Frodo offering (though he wasn't) the Ring to the Nazgul that changed Faramir's mind? When I saw the movie, it was <I>Sam</I> who gave him a change of heart (which my story explains, and, BTW, that's what I saw, not necessarily what <I>did</I> change him). <P>I admit Faramir was not perfect, because, no, he wasn't. But I think it was the whole 'The Ring is going to Gondor' deal that made people see him as a 'badguy.' Of course, I may be wrong, I don't have your eyes or minds. But pretend you're watching the movie and Faramir doesn't bring the hobbits to Osgiliath. Does he seem more of a better person now?<P>I read HC's post on the official Osgiliath thread explaining some reasons why PJ might had Faramir take the hobbits to Osgiliath, and I agree with him.<P>I'm kind of unhappy because many people say Faramir was destroyed. Was he really destroyed, utterly ruined? Was there nothing noble and good about him? He <I>did</I> contrast greatly with his brother. He let them go, while Frodo ran away from Boromir.<P>Navaer, mellynen! I do hope I haven't offended anyone. Remember, nothing I said is a fact (well, with the exception of a few things, like Frodo not offering the Ring to the Nazgul); it's all my opinions and views on the whole matter. __________________ In the fury of the moment I can see the Master's hand in every leaf that trembles, in every grain of sand.