Fat Sam in TTT - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

doug*platypus · 01-01-2003, 07:10 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Sam probably hurls him to the ground to shut him up and make him go faster. ... Smeagol was already a murderer; he killed Deagol! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>In my opinion, neither of these are very convincing reasons for having a rope around Smeagol's neck. Last time I checked, two wrongs still didn't make a right. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> And if you've read the books <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ...then you'd probably know that tying the rope around Smeagol's ankle was more than enough to control him, especially since "nassty Elves twisted it" and the very touch was burning to him. But maybe "The New, Unimproved Cruel Sam" should be another thread.As for Deathwail's initial point, I'd have to be honest and say that I didn't notice a change between FOTR and TTT, maybe cos I didn't look closely enough. It would definitely make sense for the Fellowship, especially Sam and Frodo, to have lost weight throughout their travels. But bear in mind that all three movies were made more or less at the same time, with a fair amount of switching between movies - a Continuity Checker's worst nightmare!By the way, Mark, if <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> "They (hobbits) are inclined to be fat in the stomach." --From The Hobbit, page two. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> What about Merry, Pippin, Frodo and Bilbo?

01-01-2003, 07:10 AM	#24
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Sam probably hurls him to the ground to shut him up and make him go faster. ... Smeagol was already a murderer; he killed Deagol! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>In my opinion, neither of these are very convincing reasons for having a rope around Smeagol's neck. Last time I checked, two wrongs still didn't make a right.<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> And if you've read the books <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>...then you'd probably know that tying the rope around Smeagol's ankle was more than enough to control him, especially since "nassty Elves twisted it" and the very touch was burning to him. But maybe "The New, Unimproved Cruel Sam" should be another thread.<P>As for Deathwail's initial point, I'd have to be honest and say that I didn't notice a change between FOTR and TTT, maybe cos I didn't look closely enough. It would definitely make sense for the Fellowship, especially Sam and Frodo, to have lost weight throughout their travels. But bear in mind that all three movies were made more or less at the same time, with a fair amount of switching between movies - a Continuity Checker's worst nightmare!<P>By the way, Mark, if<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> "They (hobbits) are inclined to be fat in the stomach." --From The Hobbit, page two.<BR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>What about Merry, Pippin, Frodo and Bilbo? __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.