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**lindil** · 12-26-2002, 01:52 PM

But I want to fight!!!! No really it is about taste. All of this is. I forgot to mention that the flash fwd scene was good. One of the nicest parts of the movie. Minas Tirith/Rathdinen was very much as I pictured it in my mind. That is where PJ excels , when he gets out of the way of Howe and Lee! All the new dialog between her and Agent Elrond though reduced Elrond's wisdom and nobility to that of a co-dependant whiner. " don't you love you father too".yuch. I always thought the way they parted in the RotK and the way Elrond handled himself w/ Aragorn re: his daughter was extremely noble and PJ wasted alot to make up his own version.Elrond telling Aragorn when he came of age that no man but the King of both Arnor and Gondor was worthy of his daughters hand was undoubtedly the very thing that helped drive him to become the man he was. And I doubt Elrond could have failed to forsee that. He gave Aragorn a quest just as Thingol did. But not a vicious self-destructive one that backfired in a horrible way, but one that suited and challenged Aragorn's real nature. Masterful. PJ's Elrond is a pale disfigured shadow of JRRT's.[ December 26, 2002: Message edited by: lindil ]

12-26-2002, 01:52 PM	#28
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	But I want to fight!!!! No really it is about taste. All of this is. I forgot to mention that the flash fwd scene was good. One of the nicest parts of the movie. Minas Tirith/Rathdinen was very much as I pictured it in my mind. That is where PJ excels , when he gets out of the way of Howe and Lee! <P>All the new dialog between her and Agent Elrond though reduced Elrond's wisdom and nobility to that of a co-dependant whiner. " don't you love you father too".<P>yuch. I always thought the way they parted in the RotK and the way Elrond handled himself w/ Aragorn re: his daughter was extremely noble and PJ wasted alot to make up his own version.<P>Elrond telling Aragorn when he came of age that no man but the King of both Arnor and Gondor was worthy of his daughters hand was undoubtedly the very thing that helped drive him to become the man he was. And I doubt Elrond could have failed to forsee that. He gave Aragorn a quest just as Thingol did. But not a vicious self-destructive one that backfired in a horrible way, but one that suited and challenged Aragorn's real nature.<BR>Masterful. <P>PJ's Elrond is a pale disfigured shadow of JRRT's.<p>[ December 26, 2002: Message edited by: lindil ] __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.