Merry and Pippin - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rose Cotton · 01-11-2002, 08:00 PM

In the movie they kinda made Merry and Pippin stupider than they were in the book. I liked it and thought it was a nice touch to the movie but I was wondering how other people felt about it.

Sindalómiel · 01-11-2002, 08:07 PM

To me they didn't seem stupider than in the book. More silly and comical, but not more stupid.

Elrian · 01-11-2002, 08:22 PM

The made them more mischievous and comical, but definately not stupider. It will be interesting to see them develop into the valiant Hobbits that they became by the end of RotK.

Rose Cotton · 01-11-2002, 08:50 PM

You're right. Sorry.

northernlight · 01-12-2002, 12:04 AM

yeah i don't think they're any stupider...just more comical and mischievous as elrian said. i think some comic relief so to speak was needed b/c it was a very intense movie so it helped to have merry and pippin be so comical in it to let people have a chuckle even during the most intense parts. if that makes sense at all lol.

Pippin · 01-12-2002, 08:49 AM

I liked the comic relief-ness of it and they both got some great one-liners, but the reason for them going along in the first place wasn't really established. it looked like they kinda NEEDED Gandalf's words <I>This is a serious journey, not a hobbit-walking party!</I> <BR>at first I was kinda sore about that, but calming down somewhat, I realise that they will indeed "grow up" considerably in TTT.

Rose, the youngest · 01-13-2002, 05:47 PM

it will be interesting to see how PJ will develop their characters for the next two films. any prodictions?

dernhelm · 01-13-2002, 06:00 PM

I think Merry and Pippin's clothes will probably be padded, and they will be made to look a little taller compared to Frodo and Sam, since in the Two Towers, Merry and Pippin are supposed to grow after drinking the Entwash. Also, I think they probably will not joke as much and will have sadder and wiser characters once they have seen the effects of the war with Sauron.

Rinberethial Bloom · 01-15-2002, 04:32 AM

If they had put in the whole conspiracy thing with Merry and pippin and even Sam they would have seemed more serious I think but I like them as comical kind of clowns.

01-11-2002, 08:00 PM	#1
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	Merry and Pippin In the movie they kinda made Merry and Pippin stupider than they were in the book. I liked it and thought it was a nice touch to the movie but I was wondering how other people felt about it. __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

01-11-2002, 08:07 PM	#2
Sindalómiel Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 109	To me they didn't seem stupider than in the book. More silly and comical, but not more stupid. __________________ http://www.webspawner.com/users/rineee/Sidhwen.jpg An Eru mîriant i-Ardhon E-anniant În Iôn Er-edonnant, an er-pen aphadiant ú-gwanno, garir i-guil uireb

01-11-2002, 08:22 PM	#3
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	The made them more mischievous and comical, but definately not stupider. It will be interesting to see them develop into the valiant Hobbits that they became by the end of RotK. __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

01-11-2002, 08:50 PM	#4
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	You're right. Sorry. __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

01-12-2002, 12:04 AM	#5
northernlight Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: michigan, u.s. of a. Posts: 14	yeah i don't think they're any stupider...just more comical and mischievous as elrian said. i think some comic relief so to speak was needed b/c it was a very intense movie so it helped to have merry and pippin be so comical in it to let people have a chuckle even during the most intense parts. if that makes sense at all lol. __________________ ash on my tomatoes!

01-12-2002, 08:49 AM	#6
Pippin Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: I don't know, I'm lost! Posts: 85	I liked the comic relief-ness of it and they both got some great one-liners, but the reason for them going along in the first place wasn't really established. it looked like they kinda NEEDED Gandalf's words <I>This is a serious journey, not a hobbit-walking party!</I> <BR>at first I was kinda sore about that, but calming down somewhat, I realise that they will indeed "grow up" considerably in TTT. __________________ never mind the pint.... does it come in gallons???

01-13-2002, 05:47 PM	#7
Rose, the youngest Pile O'Bones Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: here, for now. Posts: 25	it will be interesting to see how PJ will develop their characters for the next two films. any prodictions? __________________ here in the realms of fantacy do i find my only escape from the harsh realities of the real world.

01-13-2002, 06:00 PM	#8
dernhelm Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 30	I think Merry and Pippin's clothes will probably be padded, and they will be made to look a little taller compared to Frodo and Sam, since in the Two Towers, Merry and Pippin are supposed to grow after drinking the Entwash. Also, I think they probably will not joke as much and will have sadder and wiser characters once they have seen the effects of the war with Sauron. __________________ Now Lords and Ladies blithe and bold, To bless you here now am I bound: I thank you all a thousand-fold, And pray God save you whole and sound. ~ Sir Gawain's Leave-Taking ~

01-15-2002, 04:32 AM	#9
Rinberethial Bloom Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 32	If they had put in the whole conspiracy thing with Merry and pippin and even Sam they would have seemed more serious I think but I like them as comical kind of clowns.