Heirlooms of the elves - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

doug*platypus · 01-16-2003, 04:27 AM

Former kings Fingolfin, Fingon, Finrod etc. on rebirth into the Undying Lands would have had no kingdoms to rule! At the start of their new lives, they would have been considered nobility because of their birth and former rank, but would not have ruled over anyone unless they started their own new kingdoms in Aman. Which brings up an interesting point. After the flood of reborn Noldor into Aman, did everyone just coexist, or did the former inhabitants of Beleriand create dissension and form new realms?

In my opinion, it's hard to imagine them doing anything to anger the Valar, after such a long struggle against Morgoth in Middle-Earth.

When Gandalf is reincarnated, he is similar but different to how he was before, and had also "forgotten many things" that he once knew. Would a similar thing happen to reborn Elves, that they forget certain things, and come back with slightly altered personalities? Maybe Mandos is a kind of penitentiary, and their fëar are not released until properly atoned or subdued.

The age old rule of Finders, Keepers seems to come into play a lot with items, apart from the Palantír.

01-16-2003, 04:27 AM	#25
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	Former kings Fingolfin, Fingon, Finrod etc. on rebirth into the Undying Lands would have had no kingdoms to rule! At the start of their new lives, they would have been considered nobility because of their birth and former rank, but would not have ruled over anyone unless they started their own new kingdoms in Aman. Which brings up an interesting point. After the flood of reborn Noldor into Aman, did everyone just coexist, or did the former inhabitants of Beleriand create dissension and form new realms? In my opinion, it's hard to imagine them doing anything to anger the Valar, after such a long struggle against Morgoth in Middle-Earth. When Gandalf is reincarnated, he is similar but different to how he was before, and had also "forgotten many things" that he once knew. Would a similar thing happen to reborn Elves, that they forget certain things, and come back with slightly altered personalities? Maybe Mandos is a kind of penitentiary, and their fëar are not released until properly atoned or subdued. The age old rule of Finders, Keepers seems to come into play a lot with items, apart from the Palantír. __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.