Heirlooms of the elves - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

***Mithadan*** · 10-23-2001, 07:47 AM

No offense taken Telchar. The point of this thread is more to speculate about how Elves deal with this situation rather than address particular scenarios. Concerning Glamdring, I haven't looked at pre-Hobbit versions of the Sil. (Lost Tales, etc.) but the general conception of the King of Gondolin, whether he was named Turgon or no, was set in JRRT's earliest writings. Elrond came later of course, but by the time of LoTR his lineage was set (His relationship to Earendil, etc. and, in the then unpublished background Turgon's relationship to Earendil). JRRT revised the Hobbit when LoTR was being readied for publication. The first edition, fifth printing of the Hobbit issued in the early 1950s incorporated most of these changes. If JRRT wanted the detail of Glamdring's history to be changed he could have done so then or during the second edition revisions of the mid-1960s. I don't think it can be argued that Glamdring wasn't Turgon's sword.

10-23-2001, 07:47 AM	#4
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,394	No offense taken Telchar. The point of this thread is more to speculate about how Elves deal with this situation rather than address particular scenarios. Concerning Glamdring, I haven't looked at pre-Hobbit versions of the Sil. (Lost Tales, etc.) but the general conception of the King of Gondolin, whether he was named Turgon or no, was set in JRRT's earliest writings. Elrond came later of course, but by the time of LoTR his lineage was set (His relationship to Earendil, etc. and, in the then unpublished background Turgon's relationship to Earendil). JRRT revised the Hobbit when LoTR was being readied for publication. The first edition, fifth printing of the Hobbit issued in the early 1950s incorporated most of these changes. If JRRT wanted the detail of Glamdring's history to be changed he could have done so then or during the second edition revisions of the mid-1960s. I don't think it can be argued that Glamdring wasn't Turgon's sword. __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.