Who knows their trolls? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

***Mister Underhill*** · 10-03-2000, 12:14 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/redeye.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who knows their trolls?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> The orc heads hewed by Huor 'piled...as a mound of gold in the sunset.'... Not after the sunset, in the sunset... meaning as the sun went down. <hr></blockquote>
It was the heads of the men of Hador that were piled in the sunset, dang it. <u>Then</u> Hurin stood alone... Ah, dabnabbit, truce. <img src=smile.gif ALT="

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My point is mainly to introduce a reasonable doubt on this issue. To bring the thread back to the previous issue -- where, oh where have the Olog-hai gone? -- the linch-pin of your argument (and your article) is that pre-Olog-hai sun-resistant trolls existed in the First and/or Second Ages. I deferred earlier on the assumption that there was ample proof of such trolls in Silma, and only after my recent re-read did I begin to question. I'm not trying to force anything to fit except into the framework of what JRRT himself wrote -- the Olog-hai were the first sun-resistant trolls, even counting the ones from the Elder Days.

Everyone seems willing to throw out the Appendix F statement, not to mention allusions in the main text to new, tougher trolls that were abroad, not to mention clear instances of Sauron's trolls fighting in daylight, as irrelevant. I guess I'll just have to throw in the towel on this one with a quizzical scratch of the head.

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10-03-2000, 12:14 PM	#13
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,744	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit Posts: 70</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/redeye.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who knows their trolls? <blockquote>*Quote:*<hr> The orc heads hewed by Huor 'piled...as a mound of gold in the sunset.'... Not after the sunset, in the sunset... meaning as the sun went down. <hr></blockquote> It was the heads of the men of Hador that were piled in the sunset, dang it. <u>Then</u> Hurin stood alone... Ah, dabnabbit, truce. <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> My point is mainly to introduce a reasonable doubt on this issue. To bring the thread back to the previous issue -- where, oh where have the Olog-hai gone? -- the linch-pin of your argument (and your article) is that pre-Olog-hai sun-resistant trolls existed in the First and/or Second Ages. I deferred earlier on the assumption that there was ample proof of such trolls in Silma, and only after my recent re-read did I begin to question. I'm not trying to force anything to fit except into the framework of what JRRT himself wrote -- the Olog-hai were the first sun-resistant trolls, even counting the ones from the Elder Days. Everyone seems willing to throw out the Appendix F statement, not to mention allusions in the main text to new, tougher trolls that were abroad, not to mention clear instances of Sauron's trolls fighting in daylight, as irrelevant. I guess I'll just have to throw in the towel on this one with a quizzical scratch of the head. </p>