Who knows their trolls? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

***Mister Underhill*** · 10-02-2000, 06:55 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/redeye.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who knows their trolls?

Auuuggghhhhh! This IS a good discussion. I <u>love</u> the troll thread. But it seems that I'm the one who's reading the text and you who's not! (...he grumbled). Doesn't the sun set twice during the passage in question? If the sun is setting when Huor buys it and Hurin is being spirited into Angband 70 trolls later, doesn't that mean a considerable span of time has passed?

I didn't notice another troll reference anywhere else in the Silma, but I would argue that, if anything, this seems to support the theory that they weren't sun resistant in the Elder Days. If they were, Morgoth would have used 'em, and we would have read about 'em. Troops that turn to stone at the first hint of daylight aren't very practical except maybe for night-fights on your own doorstep.

Appendix F directly contradicts your interpretation. Notice the language here:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> In their beginning far back in the twilight of the Elder Days, these were creatures of dull and lumpish nature...

then...

Unlike the older race of the Twilight they [the Olog-hai] could endure the Sun, so long as the will of Sauron held sway over them.<hr></blockquote>

Take that! Aure entuluva!!

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10-02-2000, 06:55 PM	#11
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,744	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit Posts: 68</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/redeye.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who knows their trolls? Auuuggghhhhh! This IS a good discussion. I <u>love</u> the troll thread. But it seems that I'm the one who's reading the text and you who's not! (...he grumbled). Doesn't the sun set twice during the passage in question? If the sun is setting when Huor buys it and Hurin is being spirited into Angband 70 trolls later, doesn't that mean a considerable span of time has passed? I didn't notice another troll reference anywhere else in the Silma, but I would argue that, if anything, this seems to support the theory that they weren't sun resistant in the Elder Days. If they were, Morgoth would have used 'em, and we would have read about 'em. Troops that turn to stone at the first hint of daylight aren't very practical except maybe for night-fights on your own doorstep. Appendix F directly contradicts your interpretation. Notice the language here: <blockquote>*Quote:<hr> In their beginning far back in the twilight* of the Elder Days, these were creatures of dull and lumpish nature... then... Unlike the older race of the Twilight they [the Olog-hai] could endure the Sun, so long as the will of Sauron held sway over them.<hr></blockquote> Take that! Aure entuluva!! </p>