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Old 07-17-2003, 10:27 AM   #12
tinewelt
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Gwahir... after reading your post I begin now to understand more of what you are saying,and rather agree with you because until now i have been rather neutral onthis subject. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I have a question though... about this quote you made...
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'Happiness in the world' is not theirs, but happiness with Eru is -- much as the Ainur are with Elves (Elves must leave Middle-Earth and go to Valinor to be happy).
this is a tough question to word correctly, so here goes. Is this true of all elves from the beginning? Example.... it kind of seems to me like certain elves (legolas) were content and wonderfully happy in middle earth. When the ents arrived at helms deep, he wanted badly to go into the forest and walk under the trees, then also the pact with gimli to come back and see fangorn together and visit the glittering caves. Also, he rather enjoyed lothlorien. However, when he recieved his message from Galadriel about the gulls, he started longing for the sea. Do you think maybe elves who are not subjected to the sea or have knowledge of Valinor (or wise elves such as Galadriel or Elrond) really have a longing for the undying lands? (such as the woodland elves of mirkwood?) Or do all elves have the hidden desire (sixth sense) to leave for Valinor? Also, it seems funny to me that if all the elves did not care for middle earth and were not happy in it, that they would stay and fight for it for so long. (especially if they knew that they would later be leaving it anyway) But I guess thats way above my reasoning. lol What is your opinion? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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