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Old 07-11-2003, 03:47 AM   #14
Gwaihir the Windlord
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Yes, I agree with you on the prospect of Trolls being corrupted from Dwarves. The argument someone lists, i.e. why would he create Trolls if he could already corrupt real Dwarves to his side, is flawed however -- why did he create Orcs when he could easily corrupt some Men? Either way, Trolls are quite different creatures from Dwarves, and are mightier foes in battle. The possiblity of the Dwarven origin, however, can of course not be entirely ruled out [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. Nothing can really, unless it is totally absurd.

The 'many origin' theory still seems highly unlikely to me. Why would anyone bother?? All Trolls are fundamentally the same; clearly the same type of thing. There are different races among them, some quite different from others; it is also so in Orcs. And, as I have said, Humans, although not to such a great degree. Trolls are one kind of creature that has diversified.

They were probably made by some Maia or other, of course, and quite possibly Morgoth himself -- or Sauron. There is a question, though, of -- if indeed they are a 'stone-based' body or mechanism (similar to the Dwarf model, i.e. a living being out of stone) inhabited by a spirit -- where did their feas come from? The spirits that Trolls are possesed by, if indeed it is not Morgoth himself, do not seem to be those of Houseless Elves or of Maiar, as is usually. They are stupid and altogether seperate from this origin. It would actually seem that they exist in their own right. Hopefully someone will understand what I mean by this?

By the way -- Ungoliant is not unnacounted for, and is a Maia. Be back later, bye.
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