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Old 07-10-2003, 12:55 AM   #8
Måns
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My chief argument agains trolls being derived from dwaves is based on their stupidity and the Dwarvish stubborness. Firstly, Morgoth wasn't stupid. Why should he make whatever creatures he started with so dumb and uncrafty? Trolls couldn't build anything and I can hardly see why he would take this ability from anyone. Then again, these qualities seem so inextricably linked with being a dwarf it is impossible to separate the dwarf from it. I think that the trolls were one of those dark creatures said to be haunting middle earth before the coming of the Children already, unknown origin. There might have been a creature like Ungolianth that spawned a race of weaker children and disciples. To go to the origin of something, look at it's way of mating, was there any female trolls?

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