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Son of Gondor · 12-22-2001, 08:32 PM

I have two points to make on this.

1. It is an odd quote no doubt. But some of the oddity is situational. The quote is probably sounds most strange to us because it is dangled on its own out of context. I believe Tolkien would not have seen this coming at all. When Frodo was taken by the Orcs he was naturally searched. For some reason he was stripped completely. (Maybe this was to show the increased cruelty and lack of respect Mordor Orcs have.) The line about Frodo's flesh glowing as scarlet simply describes what it is that Sam first saw of his master when he burst into this upper chamber. I don't believe this was any mental fantasy Sam dreamed up, it was what Frodo actually looked like. And if you know Sam, being seperated from his master and afraid he would never see him alive again, he was goin to rush and hug him no matter whether Frodo was naked or not. It definately wasn't the fact that he was naked that made Sam not want to let go of him. He was simply elated that Frodo was alive.

2. As I have pretty much said in the first part, Sam holds Frodo almost as a father figure. He would rush into his arms and want to hold him not matter what the conditions. It is the highest of brotherly love.

I might add that if you were going to be starting scandals you'd have to add the fact that Aragorn kissed Boromir at the end of Fellowship... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

12-22-2001, 08:32 PM	#10
Son of Gondor Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 13	I have two points to make on this. 1. It is an odd quote no doubt. But some of the oddity is situational. The quote is probably sounds most strange to us because it is dangled on its own out of context. I believe Tolkien would not have seen this coming at all. When Frodo was taken by the Orcs he was naturally searched. For some reason he was stripped completely. (Maybe this was to show the increased cruelty and lack of respect Mordor Orcs have.) The line about Frodo's flesh glowing as scarlet simply describes what it is that Sam first saw of his master when he burst into this upper chamber. I don't believe this was any mental fantasy Sam dreamed up, it was what Frodo actually looked like. And if you know Sam, being seperated from his master and afraid he would never see him alive again, he was goin to rush and hug him no matter whether Frodo was naked or not. It definately wasn't the fact that he was naked that made Sam not want to let go of him. He was simply elated that Frodo was alive. 2. As I have pretty much said in the first part, Sam holds Frodo almost as a father figure. He would rush into his arms and want to hold him not matter what the conditions. It is the highest of brotherly love. I might add that if you were going to be starting scandals you'd have to add the fact that Aragorn kissed Boromir at the end of Fellowship... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ Have pity on poor Boromir, for to see the white tower fall would see the despair of men.