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Pengolodh · 06-14-2001, 01:45 PM

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Re: Book of the Century?

Mister Underhill, you confirm in a most excellent way why I do not consider the Silmarillion as a work strongly related to religion. Primary religious has been admitted to be an overstatement but that was not even the point. The point is that

a) Prof strongly disliked allegory and had no "Message" so to speak as was pointed out in this thread, certainly not a religious one. That is not to misinterpreted by saying that this is a book without any major points. There are many modern issues in it and of course there is always some allegory.

B) Prof saw this is an adventure, a quest, with a theme of mercy , immortality, death and true evil in it, an unhuman evil. He meant to entertain.

I never saw any link in the Silmarillion to religious side, totally aside from what the Prof may have thought. In fact, I would dare to note that the obvious lack of a strong religion in a M-e is a sign to the contrary. But then, I would be suggesting there's an allegory <img src=wink.gif ALT="

"> . Then of course, I am an avowed atheist, so what would you expect.

Odysseus, I suppose you meant to say "Odysseus" instead of "Ulysses"?

Gilthalion, better books than the LoTR?

Well, difficult to establish what "better" means, so I'll just go with the few books I enjoyed better.

- Silmarillion

-Morgoth's Ring

-Book of New Sun by Gene Wolfe, wonderful tetralogy

-Merlin trilogy by Mary Stewart ( I am a Merlin fanatic)

-Stormbringer, by M. Moorcock

-Corum: Coming of Chaos.

"In those days the Noldor still roamed the Hither Lands, Mightiest among the Children of Iluvatar, fair and tall and their beautiful voices were still heard by mere mortals"</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000097>Pengolod h</A> at: 6/14/01 4:10:17 pm

06-14-2001, 01:45 PM	#11
Pengolodh Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 51	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton Posts: 49</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Book of the Century? Mister Underhill, you confirm in a most excellent way why I do not consider the Silmarillion as a work strongly related to religion. Primary religious has been admitted to be an overstatement but that was not even the point. The point is that a) Prof strongly disliked allegory and had no "Message" so to speak as was pointed out in this thread, certainly not a religious one. That is not to misinterpreted by saying that this is a book without any major points. There are many modern issues in it and of course there is always some allegory. B) Prof saw this is an adventure, a quest, with a theme of mercy , immortality, death and true evil in it, an unhuman evil. He meant to entertain. I never saw any link in the Silmarillion to religious side, totally aside from what the Prof may have thought. In fact, I would dare to note that the obvious lack of a strong religion in a M-e is a sign to the contrary. But then, I would be suggesting there's an allegory <img src=wink.gif ALT=""> . Then of course, I am an avowed atheist, so what would you expect. Odysseus, I suppose you meant to say "Odysseus" instead of "Ulysses"? Gilthalion, better books than the LoTR? Well, difficult to establish what "better" means, so I'll just go with the few books I enjoyed better. - Silmarillion -Morgoth's Ring -Book of New Sun by Gene Wolfe, wonderful tetralogy -Merlin trilogy by Mary Stewart ( I am a Merlin fanatic) -Stormbringer, by M. Moorcock -Corum: Coming of Chaos. "In those days the Noldor still roamed the Hither Lands, Mightiest among the Children of Iluvatar, fair and tall and their beautiful voices were still heard by mere mortals"</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000097>Pengolod h</A> at: 6/14/01 4:10:17 pm