The Doom of Men - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Telchar · 01-02-2002, 11:57 AM

Who knows where the Fea (souls) of men goes? Mandos? - Manwë? - at least they havent reveled it to anybody. Much can be read about the doom of Men in The history of Middle-earth Vol. 10.

Mannish tradition in the earlier ages tells us that Men did not originally consider themselves to be born mortal - but that mortallity was a divine intervention by Eru, because of Mans preliminary Fall - Mannich tradition says that Men worshipped the dark lord Melkor before any of them had yet died - wherefore Eru altered his first desing conserning Men - and made them mortal. This can easily be interpreted as a punishment for the Fall, BUT as Iluvatar said to men 'ye shal be mortal and ye shall come before me and see who is the Master - he that you call the Lord or I who made him' (or something like that - I dont have my books available).

I read it like this:
Eru to himself 'Man is to fragile to the temptation of evil, so he cannot stay in Arda immortal - I will give him a new gift - they, my children, shall come quickly before me and learn the truth and live in the bliss of my protection, and yet by their doings they shall make Arda a better place' ...

hmmmm.... Pretty beautiful, isn't it?

01-02-2002, 11:57 AM	#6
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Who knows where the Fea (souls) of men goes? Mandos? - Manwë? - at least they havent reveled it to anybody. Much can be read about the doom of Men in The history of Middle-earth Vol. 10. Mannish tradition in the earlier ages tells us that Men did not originally consider themselves to be born mortal - but that mortallity was a divine intervention by Eru, because of Mans preliminary Fall - Mannich tradition says that Men worshipped the dark lord Melkor before any of them had yet died - wherefore Eru altered his first desing conserning Men - and made them mortal. This can easily be interpreted as a punishment for the Fall, BUT as Iluvatar said to men 'ye shal be mortal and ye shall come before me and see who is the Master - he that you call the Lord or I who made him' (or something like that - I dont have my books available). I read it like this: Eru to himself 'Man is to fragile to the temptation of evil, so he cannot stay in Arda immortal - I will give him a new gift - they, my children, shall come quickly before me and learn the truth and live in the bliss of my protection, and yet by their doings they shall make Arda a better place' ... hmmmm.... Pretty beautiful, isn't it? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.