The Mouth of Sauron - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

09-23-2003, 03:39 AM

Now, just in reply to the people saying that the Mouth of Sauron is completely 'annihilated'/'overtaken' by Sauron ... then why is he so ambitious? I can't quote here, but it clearly is said "... and the lands ... will be given to a lieutenant of Sauron, but one more trusty ..." ... he would be that lieutenant.

According to me, The Mouth is a Black Numenorean (which is - I think- a gathering of three tribes : those 2nd age numenoreans who weren't elf-friends and who had bases in the South, and became Sauron's when the third age began, the 3re age Gondoreans who became evil - Umbar, remnanets of the Kinstrifers, and similarly, single numenoreans corrupted (like Denethor would have become had he been less might of mind).

The Mouth is probably of one of the first two, entering service with Sauron and practising black arts to rise and to stay alive. If he received anything from Sauron, it would be aid in those arts, or a lesser artifact, not a ring of power.

The Mouth is nothing but an enormously ambitious, highly skilled underling of Sauron, probably rather a regent of the South-Kingdoms (a liasion with the rulers of Khand etc?) than a war-leader.

09-23-2003, 03:39 AM	#29
Tegarend Guest Posts: n/a	Now, just in reply to the people saying that the Mouth of Sauron is completely 'annihilated'/'overtaken' by Sauron ... then why is he so ambitious? I can't quote here, but it clearly is said "... and the lands ... will be given to a lieutenant of Sauron, but one more trusty ..." ... he would be that lieutenant. According to me, The Mouth is a Black Numenorean (which is - I think- a gathering of three tribes : those 2nd age numenoreans who weren't elf-friends and who had bases in the South, and became Sauron's when the third age began, the 3re age Gondoreans who became evil - Umbar, remnanets of the Kinstrifers, and similarly, single numenoreans corrupted (like Denethor would have become had he been less might of mind). The Mouth is probably of one of the first two, entering service with Sauron and practising black arts to rise and to stay alive. If he received anything from Sauron, it would be aid in those arts, or a lesser artifact, not a ring of power. The Mouth is nothing but an enormously ambitious, highly skilled underling of Sauron, probably rather a regent of the South-Kingdoms (a liasion with the rulers of Khand etc?) than a war-leader.