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Tar Elenion · 11-28-2003, 01:29 PM

In the passage referred to the two types of Half-orcs are juxtaposed against each other, not against Orcs: "Men-orcs large and cunning, and Orc-men treacherous and vile", and we do have two _possible_ types of Half-orcs in LotR, those described by Merry in Flotsam and Jetsam (and acknowledged by Aragorn as being at Helm's Deep) (and differentiated from the Uruk-hai as per Battles of the Fords of Isen in UT), and those less Orc-like such as the "Southerner" in Bree (and perhaps some of the 'ruffians' mentioned in 'Scouring' might fall into one category or the other).
Whether or not the Uruk-hai in Saruman's service had Man blood is perhaps beyond the scope of my post, and though I tend to believe it so, I would not make definitive statement one way or the other. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ 2:32 PM November 28, 2003: Message edited by: Tar Elenion ]

11-28-2003, 01:29 PM	#30
Tar Elenion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 369	In the passage referred to the two types of Half-orcs are juxtaposed against each other, not against Orcs: "Men-orcs large and cunning, and Orc-men treacherous and vile", and we do have two _possible_ types of Half-orcs in LotR, those described by Merry in Flotsam and Jetsam (and acknowledged by Aragorn as being at Helm's Deep) (and differentiated from the Uruk-hai as per Battles of the Fords of Isen in UT), and those less Orc-like such as the "Southerner" in Bree (and perhaps some of the 'ruffians' mentioned in 'Scouring' might fall into one category or the other). Whether or not the Uruk-hai in Saruman's service had Man blood is perhaps beyond the scope of my post, and though I tend to believe it so, I would not make definitive statement one way or the other. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [ 2:32 PM November 28, 2003: Message edited by: Tar Elenion ] __________________ Tar-Elenion