Frodo's initial delay in leaving the Shire: What does it mean? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Gandalf_theGrey · 08-23-2002, 09:01 PM

Bethberry:

Thank you for pointing out the passages from Ecclesiastes and Matthew 6, for they highlight for me further facets of applicable light touching on the various safe havens at which Frodo and the rest of the Fellowship of the Ring shelter at along various portions of the quest. I look forward to hearing any further related thoughts you wish to share, as time allows you. * bows *

Marileangorifurnimaluim:

Please let me know if you ever want me to clarify something that sounds too technically Christianese, and I will gladly comply as far as I'm able. I always strive for a common frame of reference.

As for your relating to my anecdotal description of my "real-life" visits to the Bombadil House, it fascinates me that you compare it to the spontaneous awareness of a vajrayana secret feast. After I'd posted my description of Old Tom the Historical Interpreter, etc, it struck me that this particular description might not qualify as a "Christian" spiritual experience, but rather as a moral good that people of all religious backgrounds can relate to.

As for your quote from Trungpa Rinpoche on Primordial Innocence ..... I can't ever recall trying to rediscover my adulthood. In any case, I assume your quote refers to Tom Bombadil in terms of innocent childlike quality? And/or the sense that Frodo should seek or strive to maintain this same quality, and that places like Old Tom's House and Rivendell can be instrumental for this purpose?

Gandalf the Grey

08-23-2002, 09:01 PM	#33
Gandalf_theGrey Visionary Spirit Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 633	Bethberry: Thank you for pointing out the passages from Ecclesiastes and Matthew 6, for they highlight for me further facets of applicable light touching on the various safe havens at which Frodo and the rest of the Fellowship of the Ring shelter at along various portions of the quest. I look forward to hearing any further related thoughts you wish to share, as time allows you. * bows * Marileangorifurnimaluim: Please let me know if you ever want me to clarify something that sounds too technically Christianese, and I will gladly comply as far as I'm able. I always strive for a common frame of reference. As for your relating to my anecdotal description of my "real-life" visits to the Bombadil House, it fascinates me that you compare it to the spontaneous awareness of a vajrayana secret feast. After I'd posted my description of Old Tom the Historical Interpreter, etc, it struck me that this particular description might not qualify as a "Christian" spiritual experience, but rather as a moral good that people of all religious backgrounds can relate to. As for your quote from Trungpa Rinpoche on Primordial Innocence ..... I can't ever recall trying to rediscover my adulthood. In any case, I assume your quote refers to Tom Bombadil in terms of innocent childlike quality? And/or the sense that Frodo should seek or strive to maintain this same quality, and that places like Old Tom's House and Rivendell can be instrumental for this purpose? Gandalf the Grey