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**lindil** · 08-19-2002, 09:15 AM

Saruman's spirit looked to the west [ i.e. valinor] when he was killed by wormtounge but a wind blew it away [ to the east] the implication being that he was not [ at that time at least]allowed to return.

Istari means I think wizard or the wise, and was a specific name for the 5 maia who came to M-E in the 3rd age.

Could Gandalf teach others to become wizards or wizardish?

in the normal sense - no.

Did he teach others 'lore' or wisdom - yes, Faramir comments on this in the 'windows on the west' chapter. I also do not doubt that Gandalf taught all manner of things to Aragorn who he hoped/knew [?] was destined to 'replace ' him if you will in the overseership of the NW of M-E.

[ August 19, 2002: Message edited by: lindil ]

08-19-2002, 09:15 AM	#14
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	Saruman's spirit looked to the west [ i.e. valinor] when he was killed by wormtounge but a wind blew it away [ to the east] the implication being that he was not [ at that time at least]allowed to return. Istari means I think wizard or the wise, and was a specific name for the 5 maia who came to M-E in the 3rd age. Could Gandalf teach others to become wizards or wizardish? in the normal sense - no. Did he teach others 'lore' or wisdom - yes, Faramir comments on this in the 'windows on the west' chapter. I also do not doubt that Gandalf taught all manner of things to Aragorn who he hoped/knew [?] was destined to 'replace ' him if you will in the overseership of the NW of M-E. [ August 19, 2002: Message edited by: lindil ] __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.