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Grey Ship · 12-31-2001, 07:11 PM

I have been thinking about this interference from the valas (and maias) in middle-earth. It did accour to me that they could do much more than they actually did.

An example is the five istaris. The valas must have sent them, to fight sauron. But they where not to "macht his power with power" (LOTR page 1059). Could this "forbiding" be the very reason for galdalfs decision to take care of the wounded ones rather than help fighting in the battle of the pelennor fields? Im really confused here. Does this information on page 1059 mean that the wizards where only to arrange fights, not fight them? But did they? How could then the white council attack dol guldur (when sauron fled to mordor)?

However: the valas wanted the people of middle-earth to forge their own fate (with a little "pushing"). Why? Why cant they just do everything that is in their power? There are meny things that indicates that they didnt.

Please accept my apologies for my bad spelling (maybe even folly). But, it would please be beyond reconning of men if someone with a little more wit than me could assist, though i seek wisdom, not lore.

12-31-2001, 07:11 PM	#1
Grey Ship Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: hmmm Posts: 17	Divine intervensions I have been thinking about this interference from the valas (and maias) in middle-earth. It did accour to me that they could do much more than they actually did. An example is the five istaris. The valas must have sent them, to fight sauron. But they where not to "macht his power with power" (LOTR page 1059). Could this "forbiding" be the very reason for galdalfs decision to take care of the wounded ones rather than help fighting in the battle of the pelennor fields? Im really confused here. Does this information on page 1059 mean that the wizards where only to arrange fights, not fight them? But did they? How could then the white council attack dol guldur (when sauron fled to mordor)? However: the valas wanted the people of middle-earth to forge their own fate (with a little "pushing"). Why? Why cant they just do everything that is in their power? There are meny things that indicates that they didnt. Please accept my apologies for my bad spelling (maybe even folly). But, it would please be beyond reconning of men if someone with a little more wit than me could assist, though i seek wisdom, not lore.