Who's the oldest?

[Legolas]

There is nothing that states Cirdan awoke at Cuivienen.

Also, it would appear many of you skipped over my first post here...

Tolkien's words about Treebeard's knowledge, from Letter No. 153:

Treebeard is a character in my story, not me; and though he has a great memory and some earthy wisdom, he is not one of the Wise, and there is quite a lot he does not know or understand. He does not know what 'wizards' are, or whence they came.

Thus, Treebeard's comments on the matter cannot be relied upon. His statements are true as far as he knows, but he does not know all, and we cannot accept all his comments as truth.

[ October 22, 2002: Message edited by: Legalos ]