Thorondor as a Maia??? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Westerly Wizard · 11-25-2003, 03:29 PM

Mae - "With the Valar came other spirits whos being also began before the World, of the same order as the Valar but of less degree. These are the Maiar, the people of the Valar, and their servants and helpers" (Valaquenta "Of the Maiar"). I guess that will kind of do for evidence.

The Phantom - you actually left out what appears the last note concerning the nature of Huan and the Eagles found in Morgoth's Ring.

"At the bottom of the page bearing the brief text V (p. 389) my father jotted down the following, entirely unconnected with the matter of the text:
Living things in Aman. As the Valar would robe themselves like the Children, many of the Maiar robed themselves like other lesser living things, as trees, flowers, beasts. (Huan.)"

This statement of Huan being a Maia is in the notes to the "Myths Transformed" text you quote. It was found on the on the bottom of the paper of text V of "Myths Transformed." Text V was found in a newspaper dated from November 1958. The text which you quote indicating that Huan and the Eagles are not Maiar was written on Merton College papers of 1955. Thus, this last quote above is the most recent statement on the matter, and has Huan being a Maia (and we can perhaps extend this to the Eagles given the texts you quote which relate the two).

11-25-2003, 03:29 PM	#11
Westerly Wizard Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 72	Mae - "With the Valar came other spirits whos being also began before the World, of the same order as the Valar but of less degree. These are the Maiar, the people of the Valar, and their servants and helpers" (Valaquenta "Of the Maiar"). I guess that will kind of do for evidence. The Phantom - you actually left out what appears the last note concerning the nature of Huan and the Eagles found in Morgoth's Ring. "At the bottom of the page bearing the brief text V (p. 389) my father jotted down the following, entirely unconnected with the matter of the text: Living things in Aman. As the Valar would robe themselves like the Children, many of the Maiar robed themselves like other lesser living things, as trees, flowers, beasts. (Huan.)" This statement of Huan being a Maia is in the notes to the "Myths Transformed" text you quote. It was found on the on the bottom of the paper of text V of "Myths Transformed." Text V was found in a newspaper dated from November 1958. The text which you quote indicating that Huan and the Eagles are not Maiar was written on Merton College papers of 1955. Thus, this last quote above is the most recent statement on the matter, and has Huan being a Maia (and we can perhaps extend this to the Eagles given the texts you quote which relate the two). __________________ "He was sent by a mere prudent plan of the angelic Valar or governors; but Authority had taken up this plan and enlarged it, at the moment of its failure."