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Mornie Alantie · 06-18-2002, 07:25 PM

Wouldn't that have been cool if a Hobbit like Pippin or Sam ruled ALL of Middle Earth?

I vote For Pippin

Voronwen Amatiriel Cuile · 06-18-2002, 08:50 PM

hehehe, wow! what a concept! i'm thinking Pippin, too. then we'd get to have about 7 meals a day! muhahahahaha!!!!

Kuruharan · 06-18-2002, 09:27 PM

Uhhh, I don't know. Somehow I just can't see it. For one thing ruling the world would require way to much work and leave no time for second breakfast.

"World domination! Nasty unpleasant thing that makes one late for dinner!"
-Bilbo Baggins (sort of)

Kalimac · 06-18-2002, 09:57 PM

Have to agree with Kuruharan on this one; hobbits ruling the world would be like the Peter Principle times about ten thousand. The biggest thing against it as that fundamentally you can't see any of them really WANTING it - their scope just isn't that big - even if their ambition is greedy and limitless in Shire terms, that still would probably extend only as far as Bree. Frodo was stressed out enough being deputy mayor; can't imagine him being able to (or wanting to) rule over anything greater. Sam? Again, he wouldn't want it, the Shire kept him busy enough. The Sackville-Bagginses are about the most ambitious of the bunch in worldly terms, and even they kept their scope small - poor Lotho only got as far as indirect contact with Isengard, and lived to regret it. Merry? Too busy journeying around, adventuring and making a figure of himself in his fantastic new armor [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. Pippin? As much as I love him, I would not want the guy who dropped the stone in the well of Moria - and looked into the Palantir just to see what would happen - controlling large parts of Earth. And he probably wouldn't either.

It just isn't what they're made for, and a ruling hobbit would probably be the most miserable creature in the world, who would wish it on them? Best to leave it to someone sonorous and reliable like Aragorn or Elrond [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img].

Evenstar1 · 06-18-2002, 10:21 PM

Hmmm. Pippen in charge of Middle Earth. I wonder how that would change him? Well, we know one thing for sure: the Barrow Downs would be overflowing with MUSHROOMS! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Rose Cotton · 06-18-2002, 10:23 PM

I'd like to have Sam as a ruler but as you said he is contented with his job as major. Actually at the Cracks of Doom Frodo considered domination. At least that's what I think. Though that was probably the ring and not Frodo.

Legolas · 06-18-2002, 10:26 PM

Seriously, probably not. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

The Silver-shod Muse · 06-18-2002, 11:32 PM

There's a huge difference between being a reliable person and being a competent leader. Somehow I think that leadership just doesn't play a big part in hobbit character and/or ability.

Mornie Alantie · 06-19-2002, 09:57 AM

There is a 1,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo chance that a hobbit would rule ME. So I posted this topic to see what you think if they did and who you would want. I want Pippin, although people would definitely be a lot fatter [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

MallornLeaf · 06-19-2002, 11:54 AM

<color=blue>If a hobbit ruled the world, then we'd be in big trouble. did we forget, mornie, that hobbits enjoy pleasure and drinking while the world would not go on if we did not have SOME commerce... really... what were u thinking? </color>

Ms. Took · 06-19-2002, 11:26 PM

I vote for Pippin too. He probably wouldn't stay in power for very long, but it would be fun while it lasted.

Veritas · 06-20-2002, 01:33 AM

I think that it would be a DANGER if a hobbit ruled ME, especially Pipin, he only thinks about food. Aragorn would be a much better king, he thinks about things before he is doing something.

But if we had to choose between Pipin and Sam, I would choose Sam. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

[ June 20, 2002: Message edited by: Veritas ]

orlandoandsaran · 06-20-2002, 02:00 AM

Yes, in terms with ME's danger and safety so that it will be peaceful...i would choose Sam.
But if for only the sake for FUN, I would definitely choose Pippin.
If Pippin ruled ME, he would only be King for a day.

Amarantha Gamwich-Baggins · 06-21-2002, 02:11 AM

ahh yes, hobbits: the superior race. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Neferchoirwen · 07-04-2002, 09:05 AM

I have to agree with Kalimac.
I think that the Hobbits shining moment was to have the ring in one of the hands of their kin. That does not necessarily make them leader-worthy in terms of being a competent leader. Putting in the limelight if Middle Earth History earns them a spot in its chronicles.

A Hobbit that rules would damage their culture.

Birdland · 07-04-2002, 10:44 AM

Birdie steps up to the plate for Hobbits: OK, so maybe Hobbits wouldn't desire to rule Middle Earth, but look at what a great job they did with the Shire:

A postal system second to none.

Free education, (for however long anyone wanted it.)

Great road system.

Possibility that they had indoor plumbing.

A helpful and friendly police force.

A fair and equitible system of laws.

Thriving import/export businesses.

Eco-friendly argricultural techniques.

OK, so maybe they might not have been up to the task of taking on the Dark Lord single-handedly, but when it comes to the day-to-day working of govenment, I think that a little "hobbit-sense" was just what some of these kingdoms in Middle-Earth needed.

Samwise · 07-04-2002, 12:59 PM

Say on, Birdie!

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"But Mr. Frodo, he knows he's got to find the Cracks of Doom, if he can. But he's afraid. Now it's come to the point, he's just plain terrified. That's what his trouble is. Of course, he's had a bit of schooling, so to speak--we all have--since we left home, or he'd be so terrified he'd just fling the Ring into the River and bolt. But he's still too frightened to start. And he isn't worrying about us, either: wether we'll go along with him or no. He knows we mean to. That's another thing that's bothering him. If he screws himself up to go, he'll want to go alone. Mark my words! We're going to have trouble when he comes back. For he'll screw himself up all right, sure as his name's Baggins. "

My First Attempt at an LOTR-Based Story

Catherine · 07-04-2002, 09:13 PM

If Hobbits ruled the world I bet everyone would have something to eat. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Samwise · 07-04-2002, 10:37 PM

6 meals a day...we'd all be pretty chubby, but if we all were, I guess we wouldn't care, would we? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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There the white rind of the New Moon could be seen glimmering on the remote lakes. Sam looked at it, and puckered his brows.

Rosa_Baggins · 07-05-2002, 02:05 AM

Hobbit have 6 meals a day but they also do alot of exercise to keep in shape if you know what i mean.They would have to because otherwise they'll get to fat to walk though their doors! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Rosa_Baggins · 07-05-2002, 02:07 AM

I vote Merry!!

Cimmerian · 07-05-2002, 07:38 AM

There.... chubby is the word. Six meals a day will make anyone chubby, especially girl hobbits, Rosa.
It's a scientific fact that women hold more fat than men.

Er... A hobbit couldn't rule a staight line, let alone the.... [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Rosa_Baggins · 07-05-2002, 07:56 AM

*Glares at Cim*I am not CHUBBY!!!Grrrrrrr!!

akhtene · 07-06-2002, 04:28 PM

[img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] If a hobbit was rulling the world from his (or her) cosy garden, there would definitely be less fuss and more minding everyone's own business [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

07-20-2002, 10:11 AM

Haha. It wouldn't have been cool, it would have been comical. Much better would be to see Middle-Earth ruled by Legolas and Gimli.

MYyyPreciousSS · 07-24-2002, 01:03 PM

Hmm...a hobbit ruling all of Middle-Earth, interesting... Not sure if that would be the best idea, but still, I'd vote for Merry!

Lindolirian · 07-24-2002, 04:24 PM

We'd all die of the absense of starvation, death, sadnees, and all basically bad things. It be way too happy of a world. Wait!! who am I kiddin???

but alas, I shall never truthfully be able to say the greatest thing in the world:

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I'm hungry.

[img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

the guy who be short · 05-26-2003, 10:05 AM

ARE YOU KIDDING? THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST!

first of all, new scales would have to be made. those pathetic pre-pippin ones only go up to 21 stones.
all doors would have to be widened, as would all archs, cars, lanes... everything! itll cost so much
and, of course, dumbells would all be melted as people would just give up on bodybuilding, or even trying to stay fit [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
so, its a nice prospect, but itd cost waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much

Meela · 05-26-2003, 10:23 AM

I vote for Sam to rule.

I know this isn't hobbitish, but I'd love to see Bill Ferny in charge.

And of course Denethor and I would rule side by side...

Alatariel Telemnar · 05-26-2003, 02:52 PM

I'd vote for Pip.

06-18-2002, 07:25 PM	#1
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	Wouldn't that have been cool if a hobbit..... Wouldn't that have been cool if a Hobbit like Pippin or Sam ruled ALL of Middle Earth? I vote For Pippin __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

06-18-2002, 08:50 PM	#2
Voronwen Amatiriel Cuile Pile O'Bones Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: No-where-ville: trust me, you dont care:-) Posts: 17	hehehe, wow! what a concept! i'm thinking Pippin, too. then we'd get to have about 7 meals a day! muhahahahaha!!!! __________________ "Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West, for your King shall come again, and he shall dwell amoung you all the days of your life."

06-18-2002, 09:27 PM	#3
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	Uhhh, I don't know. Somehow I just can't see it. For one thing ruling the world would require way to much work and leave no time for second breakfast. "World domination! Nasty unpleasant thing that makes one late for dinner!" -Bilbo Baggins (sort of) __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

06-18-2002, 09:57 PM	#4
Kalimac Candle of the Marshes Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Flyover Country Posts: 780	Have to agree with Kuruharan on this one; hobbits ruling the world would be like the Peter Principle times about ten thousand. The biggest thing against it as that fundamentally you can't see any of them really WANTING it - their scope just isn't that big - even if their ambition is greedy and limitless in Shire terms, that still would probably extend only as far as Bree. Frodo was stressed out enough being deputy mayor; can't imagine him being able to (or wanting to) rule over anything greater. Sam? Again, he wouldn't want it, the Shire kept him busy enough. The Sackville-Bagginses are about the most ambitious of the bunch in worldly terms, and even they kept their scope small - poor Lotho only got as far as indirect contact with Isengard, and lived to regret it. Merry? Too busy journeying around, adventuring and making a figure of himself in his fantastic new armor [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. Pippin? As much as I love him, I would not want the guy who dropped the stone in the well of Moria - and looked into the Palantir just to see what would happen - controlling large parts of Earth. And he probably wouldn't either. It just isn't what they're made for, and a ruling hobbit would probably be the most miserable creature in the world, who would wish it on them? Best to leave it to someone sonorous and reliable like Aragorn or Elrond [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. __________________ Father, dear Father, if you see fit, We'll send my love to college for one year yet Tie blue ribbons all about his head, To let the ladies know that he's married.

06-18-2002, 10:21 PM	#5
Evenstar1 Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado (just east of the Misty Mts.) Posts: 111	Hmmm. Pippen in charge of Middle Earth. I wonder how that would change him? Well, we know one thing for sure: the Barrow Downs would be overflowing with MUSHROOMS! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ - Eve

06-18-2002, 10:23 PM	#6
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	I'd like to have Sam as a ruler but as you said he is contented with his job as major. Actually at the Cracks of Doom Frodo considered domination. At least that's what I think. Though that was probably the ring and not Frodo. __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

06-18-2002, 10:26 PM	#7
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	Seriously, probably not. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

06-18-2002, 11:32 PM	#8
The Silver-shod Muse Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The shoulder of a poet, TX Posts: 388	There's a huge difference between being a reliable person and being a competent leader. Somehow I think that leadership just doesn't play a big part in hobbit character and/or ability. __________________ "'You," he said, "tell her all. What good came to you? Do you rejoice that Maleldil became a man? Tell her of your joys, and of what profit you had when you made Maleldil and death acquainted.'" -Perelandra, by C.S. Lewis

06-19-2002, 09:57 AM	#9
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	There is a 1,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo chance that a hobbit would rule ME. So I posted this topic to see what you think if they did and who you would want. I want Pippin, although people would definitely be a lot fatter [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

06-19-2002, 11:54 AM	#10
MallornLeaf Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2002 Location: who cares? Posts: 76	<color=blue>If a hobbit ruled the world, then we'd be in big trouble. did we forget, mornie, that hobbits enjoy pleasure and drinking while the world would not go on if we did not have SOME commerce... really... what were u thinking? </color> __________________ ". . . All we must decide is what to do with the time that is given us." "I pass the test, I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel."

06-19-2002, 11:26 PM	#11
Ms. Took Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Great Smials Posts: 63	I vote for Pippin too. He probably wouldn't stay in power for very long, but it would be fun while it lasted. __________________ We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars -Oscar Wilde Check out my website. http://groups.msn.com/pippinfanclub

06-20-2002, 01:33 AM	#12
Veritas Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 131	I think that it would be a DANGER if a hobbit ruled ME, especially Pipin, he only thinks about food. Aragorn would be a much better king, he thinks about things before he is doing something. But if we had to choose between Pipin and Sam, I would choose Sam. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] [ June 20, 2002: Message edited by: Veritas ] __________________ With the birds I'll share this lonely view. ~Red Hot Chili Peppers, Scar Tisue~ Laurëfin

06-20-2002, 02:00 AM	#13
orlandoandsaran Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Greenwood Home Posts: 91	Yes, in terms with ME's danger and safety so that it will be peaceful...i would choose Sam. But if for only the sake for FUN, I would definitely choose Pippin. If Pippin ruled ME, he would only be King for a day. __________________ Vor\|otwen Bloom spouse of Orlando Bloom.

06-21-2002, 02:11 AM	#14
Amarantha Gamwich-Baggins Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Limbo Posts: 21	ahh yes, hobbits: the superior race. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ some times life gives you some pipe weed and some times it gives you seed cake and some times it gives an all powerful ring that can make you invisible and extremely evil but you go on with life.... "Maybe a little hobbit did it." aREN"T î EVIL¿ LoL

07-04-2002, 09:05 AM	#15
Neferchoirwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: RtR: 483.3 miles, Fords of Bruinen Posts: 512	I have to agree with Kalimac. I think that the Hobbits shining moment was to have the ring in one of the hands of their kin. That does not necessarily make them leader-worthy in terms of being a competent leader. Putting in the limelight if Middle Earth History earns them a spot in its chronicles. A Hobbit that rules would damage their culture. __________________ On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. ~Speed Levitch http://crevicesofsilence.blogspot.com/

07-04-2002, 10:44 AM	#16
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	Birdie steps up to the plate for Hobbits: OK, so maybe Hobbits wouldn't desire to rule Middle Earth, but look at what a great job they did with the Shire: A postal system second to none. Free education, (for however long anyone wanted it.) Great road system. Possibility that they had indoor plumbing. A helpful and friendly police force. A fair and equitible system of laws. Thriving import/export businesses. Eco-friendly argricultural techniques. OK, so maybe they might not have been up to the task of taking on the Dark Lord single-handedly, but when it comes to the day-to-day working of govenment, I think that a little "hobbit-sense" was just what some of these kingdoms in Middle-Earth needed.

07-04-2002, 09:13 PM	#18
Catherine Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 297	If Hobbits ruled the world I bet everyone would have something to eat. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ ~.:Catherine:.~ "I have never been out of my own land before. And if I had known what the world outside was like. I don't think I should have had the heart to leave it." ~Merry to Haldir in Lothlórien~

07-05-2002, 02:05 AM	#20
Rosa_Baggins Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hobbiton in the Shire Posts: 145	Hobbit have 6 meals a day but they also do alot of exercise to keep in shape if you know what i mean.They would have to because otherwise they'll get to fat to walk though their doors! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ There is ever a Rose without thorns.

07-05-2002, 02:07 AM	#21
Rosa_Baggins Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hobbiton in the Shire Posts: 145	I vote Merry!! __________________ There is ever a Rose without thorns.

07-05-2002, 07:38 AM	#22
Cimmerian Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aquilonia Posts: 382	There.... chubby is the word. Six meals a day will make anyone chubby, especially girl hobbits, Rosa. It's a scientific fact that women hold more fat than men. Er... A hobbit couldn't rule a staight line, let alone the.... [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ IN STEEL I TRUST, BY CROM!

07-05-2002, 07:56 AM	#23
Rosa_Baggins Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hobbiton in the Shire Posts: 145	Glares at CimI am not CHUBBY!!!Grrrrrrr!! __________________ There is ever a Rose without thorns.

07-06-2002, 04:28 PM	#24
akhtene Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: stronghold of the North Posts: 390	[img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] If a hobbit was rulling the world from his (or her) cosy garden, there would definitely be less fuss and more minding everyone's own business [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Где найти мне сил, чтобы вернуться через века, Чтобы ты - простил?.. А трава разлуки высока...

07-20-2002, 10:11 AM	#25
The Archer Guest Posts: n/a	Haha. It wouldn't have been cool, it would have been comical. Much better would be to see Middle-Earth ruled by Legolas and Gimli.

07-24-2002, 01:03 PM	#26
MYyyPreciousSS Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: the Here and Now Posts: 113	Hmm...a hobbit ruling all of Middle-Earth, interesting... Not sure if that would be the best idea, but still, I'd vote for Merry! __________________ Then the heart of Éowyn changed, or else at last she understood it. And suddenly her winter passed, and the sun shone on her. "My Preciousss" - the line that started the obsession.

05-26-2003, 10:05 AM	#28
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	ARE YOU KIDDING? THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST! first of all, new scales would have to be made. those pathetic pre-pippin ones only go up to 21 stones. all doors would have to be widened, as would all archs, cars, lanes... everything! itll cost so much and, of course, dumbells would all be melted as people would just give up on bodybuilding, or even trying to stay fit [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] so, its a nice prospect, but itd cost waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much

05-26-2003, 10:23 AM	#29
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	I vote for Sam to rule. I know this isn't hobbitish, but I'd love to see Bill Ferny in charge. And of course Denethor and I would rule side by side... __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-26-2003, 02:52 PM	#30
Alatariel Telemnar Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: watching the ants closing in Posts: 292	I'd vote for Pip. __________________ -Ever wonder whats beyond those trees? -More trees. 'Poor ye. Ye're tied to someone who's been photographed trying to shave their hand... My condolences.'