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<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seeker of the Straight Path
Posts: 418</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> outline 4.0 A Few preliminary Notes. +++This outline does not as yet reflect the group consensus on all points [or on very many] it is primarily the opinions of lindil who loves lists and such. +++ I have endeavored to include such decisions as the group has made [esp. in following the X versions of chapters and subchapters for the Early Silmarillion. +++Even where not specifically mentioned it is assumed that All relevant Annals abd versions of the Quenta Silmarillion of IV,V,X, and XI will be consulted. +++I have begun [but not completed using the abbreviations used in the thread of the same name-so check there for resolution to any obscurities. ++++ [chapters listed from 1977 Silmarillion { aka. "77}" are brackeeted]"and in time the 77 chapters will be replaced by an entirely new system based on the final revisions of Morgoth's Ring and War of the Jewels. ++++ all of the chapters not listed would still need to be compared w/ the many versions in the History series. ++++ Below however I list the major texts [or parts ] which I think[at this point at least] can [ or should] be inserted in whole or part into the respective chapters. ++++This is by no means an exhaustive listing ,just a framework to hang further ideas on -or take them off. I am sure there are alot of things I havn't caught yet so... Please feel free to monkey around w/ it and put up a new one. ++++ This not an outline that takes the more radical far reaching ideas of Myth's transformed into account . The thread of that name covers some issues , Perhaps an outline similar to this w/explanations of the changes involved in a MT versionof each chapter will appear at some point in the future. so here isLindil's 'OLD STYLE' SILMARILLION outline as it stands now: ================================ TRANSLATIONS FROM THE ELVISH                                 AINULINDALE/VALAQUNTA - mostly from Morgoth's Ring -omitting MT revisions ----------- QUENTA SILMARILLION ****** 1 Of VALINOR AND THE TWO TREES /[1]OF THE BEGINING DAYS 2 OF AULE AND YAVANNA 3 OF THE COMING OF THE ELVES .. add parts of 'Quendi andEldar'[vol 11] 4 OF THINGOL AND MELIAN 5 OF ELDAMAR [ELDANOR ?] AND THE PRINCES OFTHE ELDALIE 6 {OF THE SILMARILS}THE DARKENING OF VALINOR [the subchapter division is from X] + FINWE AND MIRIEL [w/possible selections from Laws&Customs...' HoME X] +OF FEANOR AND THE UNCHAINING OF MELKOR + OF THE SILMARILS AND THE UNREST OF THE NOLDOR add from'Shibboleth of Feanor' ?[HoME 12] + OF THE DARKENING OF VALINOR add from [HoME 1] of the festival of valinor +OF THE RAPE OF THE SILMARILLS +OF THE THIEVES ' QUARREL 7 OF THE FLIGHT OF THE NOLDOR add from'Shibboleth of Feanor'[HoMEXII] 8 OF THE SUN ANDTHE MOON AND THE HIDING OF VALINOR                                                 [ additions from Lost tales I ?] 9 OF MEN 10 OF THE SIEGE OF ANGBAND 11 OF BELERIAND AND IT'S REALMS /[XV] OF THE NOLDOR IN BELERIAND add from 'Shibboleth of Feanor' ?[HoME 12] and Galadriel& Caeleborn 12 OF TURGON AND THE BUILDING OF GONDOLIN 13 CONCERNING THE DWARVES add from ' On Dwarves and Men' [HoME 12] 14 OF THE COMING OF MENINTO THE WEST add from' the Druedain'[Unfinished Tales] and Finrod and Andreth{HoME10} and On Dwarves and Men [HoME 12] 15 OF THE RUIN OF BELERIAND AND THE FALL OF FINGOLFIN 16 ?- BEREN AND LUTHIEN add from Lays [HoME3] [16] OF MAEGLIN add from 'maeglin' in HoMEXI [2O] OF THE FIFTH BATTLE:NIRNAETH ARNOEDIAD [21] OF TURIN TURAMBAR add the 'Narn I Chin Hurin' [U T} and 'Wanderings of Hurin' [HoME 11] and from III [22] OF THE RUIN OF DORIATH add from II,IV,V [and later sketches of Hurin?] [23] OF TOUR AND THE FALL OF GONDOLIN add of 'Of Tour and his coming to Gondolin [Unfinished Tales ]and details of the battle of the city fromHoME 2 [24] OF THE VOYAGE OF EARENDILAND THE WAR OF WRATH ---------------------------------- Appendices to the Silmarillion [not yet in order] * LAWS AND CUSTOMS AMONG THE ELDAR *FINROD AND AND ANDRETH [ATHRABETH] *QUENDI AND ELDAR w/ the Osanwe - Kenta /[?]LHAMMAS *TALE OF YEARS/ANNALS OF THE 1ST AGE [?] *ETYMOLOGIES [revised]/ ELVISH DICTIONARY Quenya and Sindarin ================================== I have incorporated an edited bit of a note from Durelen that goes into the idea of the reworking of the Akallabeth , and a history of the 2nd and 3rd ages. Quote: '" The second book should [be] everything that occurred during the Second Age in ME(insert The Druedain here) take most of the chapters from UT." ================================== Comments on the outline, possible revisions and omissions from the 'additions ' are of course most welcome. Lindil is often found on posting on the Silmarillion Project at the Barrowowns<u> Silmarillion canon , theories and discussion Forum </u> 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p>
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The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.
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