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***Mithadan*** · 10-08-2000, 11:27 AM

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Re: Orcish Fear

Our discussion here has caused some inspiration and some of the points discussed in this thread have been exported to another board. The topic there is the age or longetivity of orcs. They have touched upon the Gorbag-Shagrat conversations and the recognition by the orcs of Glamdring and Orcrist as evidence of at least non-human longetivity. Since one good turn deserves another, I will import a point they made which we missed. The timeline contained in LoTR's appendix sets the interval between the Battle of Nanduhirion, when Azog fell, and the Battle of Five Armies, when Azog's son Bolg was slain, at 140 years, meaning that Bolg was at least 140 years oldwhen he died in battle (not of old age). Now the line of Elros and the Numenoreans had lives of thrice that of normal men due to special dipensation for deeds done in the First Age. Orcs cannot claim such a dispensation.

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

10-08-2000, 11:27 AM	#11
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,394	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight Posts: 164</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Orcish Fear Our discussion here has caused some inspiration and some of the points discussed in this thread have been exported to another board. The topic there is the age or longetivity of orcs. They have touched upon the Gorbag-Shagrat conversations and the recognition by the orcs of Glamdring and Orcrist as evidence of at least non-human longetivity. Since one good turn deserves another, I will import a point they made which we missed. The timeline contained in LoTR's appendix sets the interval between the Battle of Nanduhirion, when Azog fell, and the Battle of Five Armies, when Azog's son Bolg was slain, at 140 years, meaning that Bolg was at least 140 years oldwhen he died in battle (not of old age). Now the line of Elros and the Numenoreans had lives of thrice that of normal men due to special dipensation for deeds done in the First Age. Orcs cannot claim such a dispensation. --Mithadan-- "The Silmarils with living light were kindled clear, and waxing bright shone like stars that in the North above the reek of earth leap forth." </p> __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.