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Old 09-15-2000, 01:08 PM   #11
Saulotus
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Re: New Silmarillion

&gt;&gt;Tolkien hoped to retain as much of the original Valian Year chronology as possible, but it is not possible to reverse-transform the 144 Solar Year = 1 Valian Year identification to &quot;Annals of Aman&quot;.&lt;&lt;

So dude, we've got 9+ solar years equal to 1 Valian year meanin a man born in Valinor like would mature in 2 Valian years and die in like 6 or so. OR we've got a man born in Valinor who would mature in like one seventh of a Valian year by the 144 year idea expressed explicitly and restated in text as a man's maturity age and who would die around a half year (3-4 sevenths). Text says a man couldn't accomplish the same in twelve times twelve years (144). We've got elves growing to maturity in 3,000 solar years or 313 Valian years by the 9+ idea, OR we've got them maturin at 20.8 Valian years by the 144 idea. We've got statements that the eldar aged at the same rate in Valinor as in Middle-earth. We've got the elves stated as growing to maturity in about the same time as mortal men do in Middle-earth (20 years or so; that 3,000 year thing). Add in the statement about a mortal's whole life only lastin less than a half year and I think the answer is fairly obvious and all from the same text which is accord with LOTR text.

So far; accordin to this text dude, I'm going with the flawless 144 year thing instead of the frightful, textual inconsistant, problematic, 9+ year thing you suggest.

The old dates retained are the Annals of Aman dates despite the new range of years, not the 9+ conversion, and why the vast change is stated.

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