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Pengolodh · 04-25-2001, 08:48 AM

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Re: Celebrimbor

I believe Celebrimbor as a Grandson to Feanor, living in Nargothrond is both the later and more "complete" version, if you will.

The Elessar essay has him making both Elessars, one in Gondolin and the second in Eregion. Since he was in Nargothrond in the First Age, as mentioned also in the published Silmarillion, he must have made the first Elessar there. That is the only way I can reconcile the two ideas.

Celebrimbor as a Gondolin inhabitant doesn't make sense when you consider his parentage of course. You could however also say that it was indeed Enerdhil who made the first Elessar in Gondolin and have Celebrimbor make the second one, as is said in the Elessar essay itself. You would then, have to exclude, Tolkien's later note that there is no Enerdhil and Celebrimbor made them both.

Cheers

"In those days the Noldor still roamed the Hither Lands, Mightiest among the Children of Iluvatar, fair and tall and their beautiful voices were still heard by mere mortals"</p>

04-25-2001, 08:48 AM	#1
Pengolodh Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 51	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton Posts: 31</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Celebrimbor I believe Celebrimbor as a Grandson to Feanor, living in Nargothrond is both the later and more "complete" version, if you will. The Elessar essay has him making both Elessars, one in Gondolin and the second in Eregion. Since he was in Nargothrond in the First Age, as mentioned also in the published Silmarillion, he must have made the first Elessar there. That is the only way I can reconcile the two ideas. Celebrimbor as a Gondolin inhabitant doesn't make sense when you consider his parentage of course. You could however also say that it was indeed Enerdhil who made the first Elessar in Gondolin and have Celebrimbor make the second one, as is said in the Elessar essay itself. You would then, have to exclude, Tolkien's later note that there is no Enerdhil and Celebrimbor made them both. Cheers "In those days the Noldor still roamed the Hither Lands, Mightiest among the Children of Iluvatar, fair and tall and their beautiful voices were still heard by mere mortals"</p>