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Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-07-2003, 02:59 AM

Clever question... Kemen. It is the only one not found in the place-names of Numenor.

alquadae · 07-07-2003, 03:35 AM

If you please,M'lord,a little more.Your on the right path.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-08-2003, 03:02 AM

More? Hmm I'm not sure how to go about continuing on this track. Could I have a hint please? To be really useful, you might tell me whether you're talking about Numenor or not. =/

Lindolirian · 07-08-2003, 02:48 PM

Formen is North
Hyarmen is South
Romen is East
Numen is West

Kemen is not a direction.

alquadae · 07-08-2003, 03:06 PM

You have my compass
Please carry on

Lindolirian · 07-24-2003, 03:37 PM

Combe
Staddle
Archet

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-29-2003, 03:00 AM

Staddle was the only one inhabited by Hobbits, as well as Men.

Lindolirian · 07-30-2003, 09:05 PM

It's more of a geographic difference than a demographic.

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 07-31-2003, 04:20 PM

Combe was the only one of the three that was in a valley?

Lindolirian · 07-31-2003, 08:51 PM

Not quite.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 08-01-2003, 01:07 AM

Staddle the only one on a hill?

Meneltarmacil · 08-02-2003, 01:13 AM

Archet the only place in a forest or not on Bree-hill?

Tarien Ithil · 08-09-2003, 12:41 PM

Combe, because it was nearest to teh South Downs?

Clearly, I am just guessing!

Mariska Greenleaf · 08-09-2003, 01:11 PM

Combe is the only one that took its name from its location?
Combe lay in a deep valley, and "combe" was an old word for valley.

Tarien Ithil · 08-12-2003, 11:25 AM

Quote:

There was Staddle on the other side of the hill, Combe in a deep valley a little further eastward, and Archet on the edge of Chetwood.

I've been pouring over this but with no success. Please, another clue?

Lindolirian · 08-12-2003, 10:17 PM

Ah! I'm sorry I've been gone for so long. Meneltarmacil had it on August 2 with the fact that Archet was merely the only one in a forest. Sorry for all of you who kept working so hard on it.

Tarien Ithil · 08-13-2003, 11:56 AM

Phew! Such a simple answer! And Mariska and I were babbling on about other differences! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

[ August 13, 2003: Message edited by: Tarien Ithil ]

Meneltarmacil · 08-27-2003, 11:26 AM

Nevrast
Mithrim
Gorgoroth
Nurn

These places really do not have much in common, but if you look at what three of them have in common, then it'll be really obvious why the fourth doesn't fit.

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-28-2003, 04:37 PM

I'll say Gorgoroth, as it is the only region that does not contain a body of water (Linaewen in Nevrast, Lake Mithrim in Mithrim and the Sea of Nurnen in Nurn).

Meneltarmacil · 08-28-2003, 08:45 PM

Absolutely right! You got that one really easily. Apparently, I am not that great at coming up with hard questions [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]... Go ahead, Saucepan Man!

[ August 28, 2003: Message edited by: Meneltarmacil ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-31-2003, 06:01 AM

Bag End
Cirith Ungol
Orodruin
Rivendell

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong ... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 08-31-2003, 04:10 PM

No river flows near Orodruin. Except its own rivers of lava, of course. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-01-2003, 10:43 AM

Nope. That's not the answer that I'm looking for.

Elentári · 09-01-2003, 12:30 PM

Does that mean it isn't Orodruin, or just that the reason was wrong? I was thinking Orodruin, because it is the only one that is a place, not a home of some sort- all the others are lived in, that one is a volcano!

Lindolirian · 09-01-2003, 08:06 PM

I just have this hunch about Orodruin and it might be that it's the only place that Bilbo's mithril coat did not go to. Maybe, maybe not...

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-02-2003, 07:19 AM

Nope, neither of those is what I'm looking for. And Orodruin may be the odd one out ...

... but then again it may not be. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

By way of a hint, I have added another location:

Anduin River
Bag End
Cirith Ungol
Orodruin
Rivendell

[ September 02, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Gil-Galad · 09-02-2003, 08:03 AM

Cirith Ungol because there wasn't very any major battle around there

Bag end- the uprising aganest Sharkey
Orodruin- siege of Barad-Dur/ desturcution of the ring
Anduin- taking of Osgiliath
Rivnedell- aganest Angmar

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-02-2003, 05:20 PM

Sorry, that's not it either.

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-04-2003, 05:00 PM

Another hint, another location ...

Anduin River
Bag End
Cirith Ungol
Goblin Tunnels
Orodruin
Rivendell

That should help. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 09-04-2003, 05:48 PM

No one was hurt while aruging over the Ring in Rivendell.

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-06-2003, 08:14 AM

You have the location, Lindol, but not the explanation, although you are very close indeed.

A little more detail may assist:

Anduin River - near Gladden Fields
Bag End
Cirith Ungol - just outside Shelob's lair and in the top chamber of the Tower
Goblin Tunnels
Orodruin - on the slopes and at Sammath Naur
Rivendell

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-08-2003, 06:10 PM

Final hint:

Surely someone must get this now? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Evisse the Blue · 09-08-2003, 07:30 PM

Rivendell is the OPO because...ummm...the Ring didn't change masters here. In all the other places it passed from someone to another.

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-09-2003, 11:32 AM

At last! You are correct, Evisse. They are all locations where the identity of the Ringbearer changed, with the exception of Rivendell. Well done. The thread is yours. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Evisse the Blue · 09-09-2003, 03:38 PM

Oh. Thanks, Saucy. Oy - I'm really really weak at geography and places and such and ME is no exception, but - here's my humble attempt at a riddle:
Nan Elmoth
Neldoreth
Rohan
Gondor
Caras Galadhon

alquadae · 09-18-2003, 07:31 PM

Rohan is mostly grassland while the others are wooded?

Evisse the Blue · 09-21-2003, 04:52 AM

Nope. Think of something that has to do with people.

Meneltarmacil · 09-22-2003, 06:15 PM

Rohan because it was never inhabited by elves?

And yes, Gondor WAS inhabited by elves in the past. (think Edhellond)

Evisse the Blue · 09-23-2003, 11:58 AM

No. I mean, right OPO, wrong reason.

Telchar · 09-24-2003, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Nope. Think of something that has to do with people.

This one is difficult - which is good [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] - but just to make perfectly sure Evisse the Blue, do you mean people, as is 'a people' or (specific) persons ???

07-07-2003, 03:35 AM	#322
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	If you please,M'lord,a little more.Your on the right path. __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

07-08-2003, 02:48 PM	#324
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Formen is North Hyarmen is South Romen is East Numen is West Kemen is not a direction. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

07-08-2003, 03:06 PM	#325
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	You have my compass Please carry on __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

07-24-2003, 03:37 PM	#326
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Combe Staddle Archet __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

07-30-2003, 09:05 PM	#328
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	It's more of a geographic difference than a demographic. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

07-07-2003, 02:59 AM	#321
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Clever question... Kemen. It is the only one not found in the place-names of Numenor.

07-08-2003, 03:02 AM	#323
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	More? Hmm I'm not sure how to go about continuing on this track. Could I have a hint please? To be really useful, you might tell me whether you're talking about Numenor or not. =/

07-29-2003, 03:00 AM	#327
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Staddle was the only one inhabited by Hobbits, as well as Men.

07-31-2003, 04:20 PM	#329
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	Combe was the only one of the three that was in a valley? __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

07-31-2003, 08:51 PM	#330
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Not quite. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

08-01-2003, 01:07 AM	#331
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Staddle the only one on a hill?

08-02-2003, 01:13 AM	#332
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Archet the only place in a forest or not on Bree-hill? __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

08-09-2003, 12:41 PM	#333
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	Combe, because it was nearest to teh South Downs? Clearly, I am just guessing! __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

08-09-2003, 01:11 PM	#334
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Combe is the only one that took its name from its location? Combe lay in a deep valley, and "combe" was an old word for valley. __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

08-12-2003, 10:17 PM	#336
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Ah! I'm sorry I've been gone for so long. Meneltarmacil had it on August 2 with the fact that Archet was merely the only one in a forest. Sorry for all of you who kept working so hard on it. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

08-13-2003, 11:56 AM	#337
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	Phew! Such a simple answer! And Mariska and I were babbling on about other differences! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [ August 13, 2003: Message edited by: Tarien Ithil ] __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

08-27-2003, 11:26 AM	#338
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Nevrast Mithrim Gorgoroth Nurn These places really do not have much in common, but if you look at what three of them have in common, then it'll be really obvious why the fourth doesn't fit. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

08-28-2003, 04:37 PM	#339
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I'll say Gorgoroth, as it is the only region that does not contain a body of water (Linaewen in Nevrast, Lake Mithrim in Mithrim and the Sea of Nurnen in Nurn). __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-28-2003, 08:45 PM	#340
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Absolutely right! You got that one really easily. Apparently, I am not that great at coming up with hard questions [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]... Go ahead, Saucepan Man! [ August 28, 2003: Message edited by: Meneltarmacil ] __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

08-31-2003, 06:01 AM	#341
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Bag End Cirith Ungol Orodruin Rivendell One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong ... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-31-2003, 04:10 PM	#342
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	No river flows near Orodruin. Except its own rivers of lava, of course. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

09-01-2003, 10:43 AM	#343
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nope. That's not the answer that I'm looking for. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-01-2003, 12:30 PM	#344
Elentári Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Up a tree somewhere in Caras Galadhon... Posts: 113	Does that mean it isn't Orodruin, or just that the reason was wrong? I was thinking Orodruin, because it is the only one that is a place, not a home of some sort- all the others are lived in, that one is a volcano! __________________ Dotard! What is the house of Eorl but a thatched barn where brigands drink in the reek, and their brats roll on the floor among the dogs? Spread the word! The 1st annual Golden Ring Marathon! October 20th 2005! Tell Everyone! Frodo Lives!

09-01-2003, 08:06 PM	#345
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	I just have this hunch about Orodruin and it might be that it's the only place that Bilbo's mithril coat did not go to. Maybe, maybe not... __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

09-02-2003, 07:19 AM	#346
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nope, neither of those is what I'm looking for. And Orodruin may be the odd one out ... ... but then again it may not be. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] By way of a hint, I have added another location: Anduin River Bag End Cirith Ungol Orodruin Rivendell [ September 02, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-02-2003, 08:03 AM	#347
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Cirith Ungol because there wasn't very any major battle around there Bag end- the uprising aganest Sharkey Orodruin- siege of Barad-Dur/ desturcution of the ring Anduin- taking of Osgiliath Rivnedell- aganest Angmar __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

09-02-2003, 05:20 PM	#348
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Sorry, that's not it either. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-04-2003, 05:00 PM	#349
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Another hint, another location ... Anduin River Bag End Cirith Ungol Goblin Tunnels Orodruin Rivendell That should help. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-04-2003, 05:48 PM	#350
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	No one was hurt while aruging over the Ring in Rivendell. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

09-06-2003, 08:14 AM	#351
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	You have the location, Lindol, but not the explanation, although you are very close indeed. A little more detail may assist: Anduin River - near Gladden Fields Bag End Cirith Ungol - just outside Shelob's lair and in the top chamber of the Tower Goblin Tunnels Orodruin - on the slopes and at Sammath Naur Rivendell __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-08-2003, 06:10 PM	#352
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Final hint: Surely someone must get this now? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-08-2003, 07:30 PM	#353
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Rivendell is the OPO because...ummm...the Ring didn't change masters here. In all the other places it passed from someone to another. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-09-2003, 11:32 AM	#354
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	At last! You are correct, Evisse. They are all locations where the identity of the Ringbearer changed, with the exception of Rivendell. Well done. The thread is yours. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-09-2003, 03:38 PM	#355
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Oh. Thanks, Saucy. Oy - I'm really really weak at geography and places and such and ME is no exception, but - here's my humble attempt at a riddle: Nan Elmoth Neldoreth Rohan Gondor Caras Galadhon __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-18-2003, 07:31 PM	#356
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	Rohan is mostly grassland while the others are wooded? __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire