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Old 04-25-2021, 02:35 PM   #1
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I was guided to vote lottie when my gut feeling was Huin, snippets of Legate's posts (I remember #168 standing out) influenced this and because of this I am wary of him.
Legate didn’t vote Lottie though. Also you voted in 167.
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Old 04-25-2021, 02:51 PM   #2
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Legate didn’t vote Lottie though. Also you voted in 167.

Yes Legate didn't vote lottie and appologies I had rememebered reading and agreeing with the points in #168 but yes you are right i'd alread locked in my vote in post #167, Legate casts suspicion on Lottie as early as #124 and just because they voted Huin doesn't mean they didn't plant seeds to get Lottie some votes.

My more suspicious behaviour can be explained away as me having some fun but let me make it clear If I am lynched tonight then the wolves win! I don't want to vote sally after Lottie and Huin were found innocent.

If you wish I am happy to self vote as a way to prove (kind of) my innocence but I'd prefer not to.
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Old 04-25-2021, 02:56 PM   #3
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If you wish I am happy to self vote as a way to prove (kind of) my innocence but I'd prefer not to.
For Angband's sake if you're innocent and you self-vote you give the wolves a vote to pile on whydoIhavetoexplainthishaventwetalkedaboutitbefore and at the moment you're making it way too easy!
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Old 04-25-2021, 02:58 PM   #4
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If you wish I am happy to self vote as a way to prove (kind of) my innocence but I'd prefer not to.
NO. DO NOT DO THAT.

Don't vote me either, because same result, but never, ever self-vote at such a crucial time.


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Old 04-25-2021, 03:09 PM   #5
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I have no idea what to think about Kath saying that suggesting her and Morsul are packmates is a "fair point". Really?
No. I said she was focussing on me and sally and ignoring Morsul, and she conceded that this was a fair point.


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Side note: speaking of voting - let's not forget the dead can break a tie. While they don't know any better than us, we can at least trust them to have good intentions.
Ah, but they can't send a Ghost and vote on the same Day, can they?


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If you are innocent, why would defending you be suspicious?
Because innocents (ordos) don't know anyone's roles, so defending someone too strongly may indicate you know they're innocent, which only Seer and wolves can know. Isn't this Werewolf 101?
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Ah, but they can't send a Ghost and vote on the same Day, can they?
Yes they can. The Ghost cannot vote, because during the haunting he doesn't truly belong in either thread, so to speak. The rest of the Dead carry on as they do.
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Old 04-25-2021, 03:06 PM   #7
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Yes Legate didn't vote lottie and appologies I had rememebered reading and agreeing with the points in #168 but yes you are right i'd alread locked in my vote in post #167, Legate casts suspicion on Lottie as early as #124 and just because they voted Huin doesn't mean they didn't plant seeds to get Lottie some votes.
Okay, not only was this really fishily phrased, but I had to backcheck this and in fact that is straightaway fabricated. Because the only thing what I said about Lottie there was outlining the following possible scenario:
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Also knowing Greenie being innocent, Lottie's vote which "sealed the deal" might have been a way of Lotwolf to save a fellow Huiwolf from the noose. But I think a scenario where Hui and Lottie are both Wolves who voted in order to save Hui would be almost to good to be true. Of course, it is perfectly possible. But Lottie doing this specifically in order to save Hui requires multiple premises to be true first.
So not, that is actually literally what you just claimed you operated with in one of your previous posts - but that's exactly why it does not make a sense as a theory to base anything on! It is only true if X is true!

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If you wish I am happy to self vote as a way to prove (kind of) my innocence but I'd prefer not to.
What????? No, that is the last thing you should do if you are innocent! Self-vote would help only the Wolves, not anybody else!

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Old 04-25-2021, 03:25 PM   #8
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Because innocents (ordos) don't know anyone's roles, so defending someone too strongly may indicate you know they're innocent, which only Seer and wolves can know. Isn't this Werewolf 101?
This might have been a fair point if I'd actually defended Sally strongly, but what I said was that I'm suspicious of Morsul because he jumped on Sally so quickly and she seemed like an easy target.

Also it's past midnight, I have work fairly early tomorrow, and I should really vote and go to sleep, but I hate making big decisions. I find all of Morsul, Pitch and Sally suspicious to some degree, and Lottie suspected them all too. If I was the ghost, I'd use a certain dialogue between Gandalf and Frodo and comforting thoughts here. As much as I'd like them all to be wolves, I don't think that's the case.

Since her anything but reassuring appearance toDay, I think lynching Sally might be our best bet toDay. Both Form and Lottie's deaths could point to her, too. I don't think we're gonna get a much better case.

But. If I vote her and she's innocent, it's game over for us. To be entirely honest, I don't really want that kind of responsibility.


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Old 04-25-2021, 03:28 PM   #9
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Seriously, Pitch and Sally? Seriously? At my bedtime???
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Seriously, Pitch and Sally? Seriously? At my bedtime???
Mine too, if that's any consolation.
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If you wish I am happy to self vote as a way to prove (kind of) my innocence but I'd prefer not to.
That’s something I did in my first game as a werewolf. Didn’t help my suspicion of you.
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