Luthien weilding Vilya

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Belegorn

True. You said the same thing I said about Lúthien in an earlier post. I cannot see her having charge of any state. Being effeminate in all honesty is not a good quality in a monarch as we have seen with Alexander of Rome. He let his mother basically control him and the army murdered him.

I wouldn't say that to Galadriel who clearly wasn't called Nerwen for nothing and Idril has leadership qualities. However there are issues for female rulers and they do tend to have to compromise their femininity unless the have the foil of a supportive consort.

However while Galadriel had the potential to be a warrior I dont think her defence of kin at Alqualonde is enough to say she was..it wasn't something she trained for as Elrond would have been. Now I am sure Galadriel as one of the old Noldor of Valinor might have had greater innate power but with weapons you have to rate Elrond, scionof Fingolfin, Turgon, Tuor and Earendil..father of Elladan and Elrohir..ok they might takecafter grannie! Herald of Gilgalad, who according to one accounts actually wrestled Sauron, leader of the task force to Ost in Edhel. Once Glorfindel had returned he may have abstained from combat for the sake of his healing but I bet if he had to...

[Belegorn]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

it wasn't something she trained for as Elrond would have been.

Maybe or maybe not. She could certainly have been trained and I think she was schooled to some degree as a warrior. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "as Elrond would have been".

[Mithalwen]

Galadriel was born into the peace of Aman with no need of learning weaponcraft and itvwas only when Melkor stirred up the diatrust and rivalry between the noldorin princes that they started making them so at the point of the kinslaying none of the noldor had real battle experience or training and thecteleri only had light bows. So Galadriel may well have fought bravely and used her native strength but I doubt she would have been trained..who would have had the skill to pass on. Elrond born into was wouldchave been trained in warcraft from an early age and would have fought in the War of Wrath and been experienced enough to have command of the force sent to Eregion and to be second only to Gilgalad and arguably Cirdan during the last alliance. Now whilee Galadriel had thecsame level of experience as her cousins and brothers at alqualonde they fought in the battles of middle earth while she simly did not. So Galadriel was very useful in a pinch but not a warrior in the way they became.

[Belegorn]

Okay that makes sense. Apparently she was not a warrior at all and had no need to be. I was reading into it. That's my fault.

[Mithalwen]

Don't worry about it..it was more interesting to me than the original topic and I hadn't noticed that loremaater reference before so to find that the Noldor were renaissance princes was fascinating. Anything that provokes reexamination of the texts and brings new insight is worthwhile.