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Old 08-01-2011, 12:24 PM   #1
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It's certainly a good thing this hotel has free wifi. Eomer and Bom would have gotten away with it otherwise. I happen to be the real Ranger - I protected Boro last night.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:30 PM   #2
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It's certainly a good thing this hotel has free wifi. Eomer and Bom would have gotten away with it otherwise. I happen to be the real Ranger - I protected Boro last night.
So you say that Eomerwolf had the luck to frame TWO gifteds? Oh, yes, very likely.

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Old 08-01-2011, 12:32 PM   #3
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We should officially call this game The Revels of the Reveals!
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:33 PM   #4
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So you say that Eomerwolf had the luck to frame TWO gifteds? Oh, yes, very likely.


A valiant effort, but it's all turned to absurdity for our dear Nerwen and Shasta.
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A valiant effort, but it's all turned to absurdity for our dear Nerwen and Shasta.
Well stranger things have happened. I should tell you about the time I got Fenris-lynched in Lommy's village. There's a good story of insane coincidences.

I'm also wishing there was a cobbler in this game, he/she'd be having a field day.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:48 PM   #6
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I'm also wishing there was a cobbler in this game, he/she'd be having a field day.
To have a third Ranger or Seer reveal? But by Eru, it would have been hilarious!

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Old 08-01-2011, 12:59 PM   #7
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So you say that Eomerwolf had the luck to frame TWO gifteds? Oh, yes, very likely.

Edit: xed with Boro.



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Last post, phone dying.

Just as likely as Eomer "dreaming" two wolves, one right after the other, no?
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Last post, phone dying.

Just as likely as Eomer "dreaming" two wolves, one right after the other, no?
Oh come on Shasta, I've done that twice and your record seering isn't terrible. It's not so unbelievable, don't try to pull that one passed me.
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Ah...I've read everything. As I said, internet is spotty to nill, to say the least.

I am terribly confused. Let me see if I have this right -

YesterDay, Eomer revealed that he was the seer by saying that Nerwen and Shasta needed to die.

Last Night, the wolves attempted to kill somebody and were rebuffed by the ranger.

ToDay, Nerwen says that Eomer is bluffing and SHE is the seer...

Bom says he's the ranger and protected Eomer.

Shasta then pops up and says he's the ranger and protected Boromir...

Brilliant. And unlikely. Well, obviously. Someone's lying, 'cause we can't have two seers and two rangers.

I'm going to do more indepth reading and see what I can figure out. Time is short, though.

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Ok, I accept that there is a possibiliy that Eomer is lying - as unlikely as it seems. However, only the death of one of these people can prove and disprove all our theories: Eomer, Nerwen, Shasta, and Bom. Two claim to be Rangers, and the other two - Seers. The question is, which two? The other two are hence wolves. Either we'll be lucky and get a wolf toDay and another toMorrow, or get one toMorrow and the other the next Day.

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Old 08-01-2011, 01:21 PM   #11
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Ok, I accept that there is a possibiliy that Eomer is lying - as unlikely as it seems. However, only the death of one of these people can prove and disprove all our theories: Eomer, Nerwen, Shasta, and Bom. Two claim to be Rangers, and the other two - Seers. The question is, which two? The other two are hence wolves. Either we'll be lucky and get a wolf toDay and another toMorrow, or get one toMorrow and the other the next Day.
The problem is that if we kill the WRONG one today, we kill either a seer or a ranger. That'd be bad.
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I meant to say this in my last post but forgot to: our biggest question right now probably is if we'd rather lose a Ranger or a Seer.

Edit: xed with Foley. You are correct in that. I'll try looking for some evidence on them.
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Old 08-01-2011, 01:53 PM   #14
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...Starting wit Bom! (I'm not quoting all the posts, just the ones that draw my eye)

His first post is a Ranger hint right off:

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But I suppose it's my job to protect you idiots. Ah well.
But he denies it here (probably having second thoughts about so obvious a clue):

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*ahem* AS I was going to say before I was rudely interrupted by myself (several times, even!) my mind seems to be on the more, as Nerwen says, talented actors. (translation: it seems like anybody and everybody is dropping hints that they're Gifted. Including, in retrospect . . .



myself). So you'll excuse me if I make a few incautious comments about such.
"my mind seems to be on the more, as Nerwen says, talented actors" - such as Seers.

Then comes the Hunter vs Ranger debate.

Then Bom voted Boro, which is a switch from Shasta. I find this interesting, but I can't make anything out of it.

Day 2

Then he's happy that people call him weird (weird=gifted?).

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I still can't think what I can do to prove my innocence to the rest of you at the moment. If people are convinced that I'm a wolf, there's nothing I can do to change their minds (unless something extraordinary happens).

Anyway, while I hate that I'm on the target list there, Eomer is making sense.
This post drew my attention for some reason. I can kinda see this as a paraphrased version of "I still don't want to reveal. You won't believe me anyways, until maybe I'll save someone at Night". But that could just be my imagination seeing clues where there are none.

Then Bom votes for McC "because Eomer's reasoning made sense".

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So . . . either the wolves planned for the Ranger protecting the fake-revealing Eomer and attacked one of their own,
This is definitely a clue that Bom protected Eomer.

Then he agrees to lynch Shasta so that we have at east one known wolf.

Then he reveals.


...aaaaand Shasta!

Doesn't like Bom from the first post

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Will likely vote Bom today.
...in response to Bom saying that he'll make some incautious gifted comments

Then appears only to vote Glirdy to save Boro. Interesting.

Day 2

Then attacks me and Eonwe for not helping him save Boro.

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I personally suspect both Bom and Cabbie, but Cabbie seems much more suspicious. Bom just seems like Bom, but Cabbie has said nary a thing all game and nothing all Day. If I don't hear a good defense of his vote for Zil yesterDay, he's getting my vote toDay.
Which is just like McCaber - he's always a submarine. You can't use that reasoning for Bom and not use it for McCaber as well (I know you haven't played with McCaber before, but still.)

I really don't understand how McCaber can be "much more suspicious" than Bom when all he's done thus far is vote for Inzil.
Keeps justice?

Then votes me.

Day 3

Reveals and votes Eomer.




I'm sorry, Shasta, but as much as I tried I couldn't see and Ranger clues in your previous posts.

Stay tuned for the Seers...

Edit: xed with Bom. I see your point here.
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:20 PM   #15
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our biggest question right now probably is if we'd rather lose a Ranger or a Seer.
On general principles, the answer would be Ranger. The Ranger has to guess who to save based on the Day's discussion. While the Seer can guess wrong and dream an Ordo, they still get the knowledge that the person is an Ordo, while if the Ranger guesses wrong they have no effect. The main aim for the Ranger is to protect the Seer once they've revealed, and they rarely save anyone else.

On the other hand, in this game, it's much more complicated. If Eomer is telling the truth, then it's likely that the wolves went for him, hoping the Ranger would bluff and protect him the toNight. If this is the case, then Eomer will get killed toNight, so it wouldn't seem too bad to kill him now instead, as he won't get to tell us his dream anyway.

However, if Eomer is a wolf, then either they hoped the ranger would protect Eomer and voted for one of their own (very risky, and I don't know if it's really allowed-Lottie?), cementing Eomer as an almost known seer, as it would seem an unlikely option. On the other hand, this means that the wolves are unlikely to kill Nerwen, as it would prove them wrong, so if this is the case she is safe.

However, if Nerwen is the Seer, then the ranger could still protect her toNight, in which case it might be better to attack neither of the rangers...

I don't know, there's too much to consider...



The fact that both Rangers claim to have protected Eomer makes it seem more likely that he was saved, which in turn makes it more likely that he's either actually the Seer or an Ordo masquerading as one, for whatever purpose.

Also, though we have all our gifteds, I think the wolves are winning. At the moment, the worst case scenario means that we could end up losing both the Seer and the Ranger toNight.


On the other hand, it could be that all the reveals so far are ordos, or at least half of them, in an attempt to stop the real gifteds counter-revealing on claims that might actually have been made to protect the real gifteds in the first place. There are just too many possibilities to consider.
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