WW LXXIII: Arkham Asylum: Holding Cells(Game Thread)

[Nerwen]

I am getting very concerned about Jonathan now. He is just too sweet and crunchy (all of him). What does he have to hide?

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

So let's look at the people who have been most reasonable up to now

That'll teach 'em.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Nope. With no Seer, traces of collaboration are one of the few signs of wolvery detectable by the unaided innocent eye, so the wolves would do their damnedest to avoid that, I think; especially if there are only two of them. (Like the Sith - always two there are of them, master and disciple. Hmmm...) *gets carried away, calls himself to order*

Ah, isn't treachery the way of the Sith? How do you know they won't be merrily (and obviously) stabbing each other in the back?

Actually... *assumes serious expression* I'm not sure what we can expect from the current set-up. We've got three unusual factors: two wolves, no Seer, and a tiny village. Would the wolves be able to ignore each other?

That's if we're hunting wolves. We seem to be hunting cobblers toDay. Tally-ho!

EDIT:X'd since Sally at #60.; clarification.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

It's called optimism. Boosts up the moral of the village and makes the wolves think they're chances are lower. I always find the statistics to make it seem like the village has better chances, it makes me more relaxed and then I can think more clearly and enjoy the game better.

Now that those pesky villagers have been lulled into a false sense of security, right?

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Yeah, I actually disagree. I think since there are only 2 of them and they do have to survive together a while they would actually be more adament about their trust, they don't want to risk one of them dying so they should be more likely to defend each other.

Ye-es.... only it'll be harder then usual for the wolves to control the lynch this early, and if one dies and leaves a clear trail to the other– game over. (Poor widdle fings )

So I could see them turning on each other, if it came to that... I mean, it depends on who they are, and what happens.

What we should do is ask everyone what they'd do if they were wolves, and the ones who do the exact opposite are the actual wolves.

Like so:

Nerwen: Jonathan, what would you do if you were a wolf?

Jonathan (squeaky voice): Oooo.... let me see... if I were a wolf, Nerwen, I'd be long, squishy, green and tasteless. Definitely.

Nerwen: Whereas you are in fact round, crisp, red and delicious? *voice drips with irony* Oh, how very convenient!

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Nog: Beautiful Soup, so rich and green,
Waiting in a hot tureen!
Who for such dainties would not stoop?

Doc: Don't try that on me. It won't work. Here's the good news: you'll soon be blissfully ignorant of what goes on. How's that?

Nog: Soup of the evening, beautiful Soup!
Soup of the evening, beautiful Soup!
Beau--ootiful Soo--oop!
Beau--ootiful Soo--oop!

Doc: Nuu-urse! The straightjacket, please!

*a mild struggle ensues*

Nog: Soo--oop of the e--e--evening!

Doc: Okay that's it.

*hits Nog with a hammer so that blood spills all around*

Doc: The bad news then... You suffer, beside your overt madness, from a rare syndrom called Europeanismus narcolepticus. It means you will fall in a deep sleep quite so soon...

*starts staring Nog in the eye and swinging a pendulum in front of his eyes*

Nog (resignedly): Beautiful, beautiful soup...

*hits Nog to a head with a hammer, more blood around*

Nog (hardly audible): Beautiful soup! Who cares for fish,
Game, or any other dish...

Doc: Nuu-urse! Nuu-urse! Get this weirdo to room 9, will you?

Stop! Stop! I'll go mad! Mad, I tell you!

...Oh, wait, I already am.

Carry on, then.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

What we should do is ask everyone what they'd do if they were wolves, and the ones who do the exact opposite are the actual wolves.

What a wonderful plan! But then of course the wolves would do exactly what they said they would so that they look good, so then we have to lynch the ones who do what they say they would do.

What's the point in listing the captain obvious stats? Really no point in making tentative, cautious voting, because there's a better chance for the lynch to be a good result, a high chance it'd be bad but only be a flesh wound, and a very minimal chance at a terrible lynch.

Yay for optimism!!!

I really have to do homework, I'll keep popping on and off for the next little while. Once this assignment is done I'll skim through and try to establish some suspicions.

[Pitchwife]

What we should do is ask everyone what they'd do if they were wolves, and the ones who do the exact opposite are the actual wolves.

Now that's really helpful, thank you.And that right after making a really good point about wolf strategy in this game. (Yes, Nog and wilwa, I've noted your objections, but I'm not quite convinced yet.)
But d'you know what, Nerwen, this mixture of perfect sense and madness is getting on my nerves...

(x-ed with wilwa)

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

this mixture of perfect sense and madness is getting on my nerves...

The game is working it's theme quite beautifully... beautifully... beautiful Soup!

[Nogrod]

I think the last cigarette didn't make me any wiser, and the clock ticks... tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic...

(Yes Sally, there's a lavatory that is not guarded and where one can smoke without the guards noticing... made me feel like a teenager again!)

I'd like to vote you Boro indeed!

If for nothing else, then to make you speak your mind at last and not get away with it just defending yourself and being smart & agreeable on general issues.

You have been around, you have been nice, cool and reasonable - and defending. And you have also avoided all possible controversies. Your suspicions? None.

If you're a wolf, then your points I have appreaciated about the wolves being very much able to play together in this kind of game turn out quite cynical points where you loved trying to lead us astray while knowing how the things are...

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I think the last cigarette didn't make me any wiser, and the clock ticks... tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic...

Croc!!!!



One more little paragraph to perfect and then I can come back on and make a list perhaps, and vote. So be back soon.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Boro

I feel like Tolkien and allegory, it's a good story folks...laugh!

It really was a good story.

Ack, I have to cast my vote now unfortunately because of my horrendous work schedule today.

I haven't been able to go into detail on all of the posts since my last, but I'll try to make a few hurried comments before returning to work.

Suspicions:
Boro- reaction to the whole hint thing seemed strange to me (I'll try to explain below)
Loslote: the whole hinting thing

1) I understand Boro's unhappiness with having his words picked apart, but seeing as he's such an accomplished player his posts (along with others who fit this category, Nogrod comes to mind) will be picked apart because he's been tricky in the past. However, he should know this is how it works and not get so up in arms about it.
2) Sally's monster post broke things down, but didn't actually provide a whole lot of commentary. Fairly typical behavior, but can't say I agree with this seeing as it could be a possible hiding tactic.
3) Glirdan was the first to say Boro is a hinting baddie. However, looking at the context of the post it's mostly a joke. Loslote jumping onto that and making it something has both a good and a bad side. The good side is it has stirred up conversation, the bad side is that she latched on to that particular idea in a somewhat serious manner. Nerwen does the same sort of thing.
4) I'd like to see Durelin explain her groupings:

Originally Posted by Durelin

Wolves - Round 1

Nogrod
Loslote

Wolves - Round 2

Glirdan
Kitanna

5)

Originally Posted by Pitch

About wilwa - this "we've got loads of time and no reason to worry" attitude is something I'd usually overlook (as in not notice), especially as she's so reasonable otherwise. But you're right, it's not exactly conducive to catching wolves.

Interesting point and I had actually overlooked Wilwa's post about that. But the part about it not being conducive to catching wolves can also go along with those who are back and forth on Boro's "hinting" issue.

I apologize for this rushed post, but...

++ Loslote

As I said above she took hold of the hinting idea that Glirdan appears to have put forth as a joke. This did stir up conversation, but at the same time Loslote didn't commit to the idea one way or the other. This sort of vague, flip-flipping is an easy way to hide a baddie on Day 1.

[Durelin]

I'm not going to explaining myself this time. No one ever listens anyway.

Too many people... (I know, there's really not as many as usual...)

I'll try to come up with something.

[Durelin]

Aw, I have to double post? I want to give you guys something before people go to bed.

So the reasons for my groupings: the voices in my head? It's like gut feeling. It tells me things. Indigestion does make the voices more talkative.

Basically, Nogrod's first couple posts gave me a vibe of some vague sort. Loslote is annoyingly agree-able and like 'im going to be helpful!' But so is Sally.

Glirdan seemed like low-radar wolf somehow, and Kitanna seemed like 'I'm going to be the sense in this chaos and skate through silly Day 1 mwaha.'

But Pitchwife could be the same thing.

And Isabel is low-radar skater wolf.

Hehe.

[Pitchwife]

OK, a shot in the dark:
++Durelin
Sorry, but we might actually listen if you gave us something to listen to...

EDIT: x-ed with Dury...

[Nerwen]

Just a note: my internet has been dying on and off for the last hour or so, so please excuse lack of participation at the moment.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

How much more lupine can you get?

Hmmn. I'm actually getting more of a cobblerish vibe from Lottie toDay, but maybe that's a hangover from last game.

Now, I may be taking this too personally, but Pitch himself is starting to creep me out:

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

But d'you know what, Nerwen, this mixture of perfect sense and madness is getting on my nerves...

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Might vote for:
- Dury for combination of submarining and unexplained suspicions
- Nerwen: another one I'm flip-flopping bigtime about; I'd highly appreciate it if she'd commit to either lunacy or reason, and I usually suspect her way too little - maybe it's time to break that habit.

Because I made some actual arguments in between being silly– on Day One. In a lunatic asylum. Really.

EDIT:X'd since Durelin at #85.

[Morsul the Dark]

I just LOVE the Democratic process! Hehe The Rasmussin Poll has the following votes so far!

Kitanna----->Loslote
Pitch------>Durelin
Nogrod----->Pitch
Wilwa----->Boro
Loslote---->Nerwen

Confusion Confusion Everywhere!

Tick....Tock....Tick...Tock

[Isabellkya]

Your reasons, or lack there of confuse me Loslote. Should these of been things that you yourself had thought of before making your vote. As opposed to speculating when I asked after your vote?

Roughly 1.5 hours until deadline Mod?

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Kitanna----->Loslote
Pitch------>Durelin
Nogrod----->Pitch
Wilwa----->Boro
Loslote---->Nerwen
Boro---->Wilwa
Sally----->Wilwa

and then there were four...

[Isabellkya]

Originally Posted by Izzy

What purpose would it serve her, if she were nefarious to go around proclaiming it?
To see if it would be passed off as first Day banter and play?

If she is nefarious and is lynched because of her proclamations; then that would be quite the silly wolf. Or do you supposed she is the Cobbler?

Originally Posted by Loslote

She might have been hoping people would say "oh, a wolf would never be so bold, she must be innocent!"

Originally Posted by Izzy

Your reasons, or lack there of confuse me Loslote. Should these of been things that you yourself had thought of before making your vote. As opposed to speculating when I asked after your vote?

From the your post here in the middle, it had not sounded like you considered the motive behind a Nerwolf playing around in evil banter.

[Pitchwife]

Nog, go for me if it makes you happy; I'll deal with that toMorrow (hopefully), right now it just distracts me.

My rendezvous with the bedbugs is drawing near, and so is voting time. So...

Will not vote for:
- Glirdan, for reason given in #56, and I don't really know what to make of the little he posted.
- Kit, because being reasonable is not enough evidence.
- Lottie, not because I 'trust' her, but because I haven't seen any real evidence against her so far.
- sally: she does look innocent to me (too innocent to be true? don't know, wait & see).
- Boro: need to see more of him to get a picture.

Unsure about:
- wilwa: I'm flip-flopping quite a bit about her, with her "Yes-we-can"-attitude...
- Nog: maybe he's trying to fabricate something after all, but I admit I'm biased here.
- Izzy. I considered her lynchworthy for lack of contribution, but I see she's just turned up.

Might vote for:
- Dury for combination of submarining and unexplained suspicions
- Nerwen: another one I'm flip-flopping bigtime about; I'd highly appreciate it if she'd commit to either lunacy or reason, and I usually suspect her way too little - maybe it's time to break that habit.