WWLXXI: Something in the Night (Attempt #2)

[Gwathagor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYHGh6lmSbo

Her mother hadn't noticed when Rosalita had snuck out the front door, out onto the street, where a waiting car had whirled her away. It was only the bus brought her father home from the factory that her absence was detected. They all knew what had happened and who she was with. Her father called the police.

Rosalita sat in the backseat with Sloppy Sue and the Barefoot Girl, their guys in the front, as the car sped and swerved down the highway, windows down, hands out the windows, hair flying. Free. Rock and roll blasted through the speakers. Laughter and cigarette smoke floated out behind them. The driver looked back at Rosie and flashed her a grin. Rosie smiled back. Her parents said he would come to no good, that he was a ne'er do well - but Rosalita didn't care. He wouldn't always be poor; in fact, he had promised to take her away to California as soon as his record deal pulled through.

His smile disappeared as his gaze was drawn out through the rear windshield. Flashing lights. He turned to face the road ahead and settled in the seat.

"Seat belts on, windows up," he said. "Here we go."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGMPNGCrn5A

And they went, speeding down the empty country road, the police car hot on their tail.

Thirty minutes later, the band of young people were standing on the side of the road, their battered car lying in the ditch, while a policeman grilled them. In the end they were let off with fines and warnings and allowed to go their way - all but Rosalita.

She found herself shoved in the backseat of the police car and dropped off at home minutes later, where her mother railed and cried while her silent, furious father led her to her windowless attic room, slammed the door shut - and then locked her in. She listened as his footsteps faded away down the stairs, then threw herself on her bed and fell into a tortured sleep. She didn't bother to cry, because she knew there would be plenty of time for that later, when her father would return drunk, with that glazed, desperate look his eyes. And then he would beat her.

***
Night 3 has begun.

The Living
Johnny 99 - Nogrod
City Dude - Inziladun
Gypsy Biker - Shasta
Bad Scooter - Isabellkya
Mary - Rikae
Crazy Janey - Alonariel
Boardwalk Sandy - Sally
Jersey Girl - Wilwarin
Wendy - Lariren

The Dead
Jimmy the Saint - Morsul - The Highwayman (Hunter)
Wild Billy - Glirdan - Innocent
Rosalita - Loslote - Innocent

[Gwathagor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK2L_0DeL3U

Mary had been happy at first, when she had taken up with the new guy in town. He was cool. He had a band. They had a kid, they got married, they settled down in a little house just outside the city limits, and Mary felt that everything she had dreamed of for her life was coming true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5VYyw-XyCw

In a few months, however, it was clear that all was not well. The strain was beginning to take its toll on both of them. Mary sat out on the porch, for the most part, she who had once been so lively, and, with hollow eyes, watched the cars drive past. Some of the vehicles disappeared westward down the highway, never to return, and these she gazed after longingly. She would remain there in her chair well after the sun had set, staring out alone into the night - almost as if she was waiting, or looking for something. Then the baby would cry, and she would head back inside. He, on the other hand, has become restless almost immediately. He was rarely home: during the day, he worked construction, and at night, he would take his car - the only thing he seemed to really car about anymore - racing on the strip, in the streets, wherever. Anywhere but home, which he avoided almost as if it was haunted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NltljcANCFs

And perhaps it was haunted - by the ghosts of the many dreams which had been born there and which had died so soon afterwards.

On that particular evening, Mary walked home from the grocery store to find that he was gone - and not in the usual sense. His side of the closet was as bare as a bone, his drawers empty, his shoes all gone. Scattered all across the bed were the love letters he had written to her - only a year or two ago, she knew, but it felt like so much longer. She was not entirely surprised to find him gone, but it broke something in deep inside her nonetheless. She sat on the edge of the bed for hours that night, feeling so, so old, reading each letter over and over again, as she knew he must have done earlier that day.

It seemed he had gone south, or west, maybe, to look for better work, but when Mary disappeared as well, no one was sure where she had gone Her baby was left on the porch of her parents' house. Some suggested that she had gone after him, and others, who pointed out that she would have needed a car for that, suggested that the police department dredge the river. But, in the end, no one seemed to care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPobte6iqSU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFO-N01wup0

[Again, there are not necessarily any hints in the narration. I just write what makes sense in the context of the lyrics.]

***

Day 3 has begun.


The Living
Johnny 99 - Nogrod
City Dude - Inziladun
Gypsy Biker - Shasta
Bad Scooter - Isabellkya
Crazy Janey - Alonariel
Boardwalk Sandy - Sally
Jersey Girl - Wilwarin
Wendy - Lariren

The Dead
Jimmy the Saint - Morsul - The Highwayman (Hunter)
Wild Billy - Glirdan - Innocent
Rosalita - Loslote - Innocent
Mary - Rikae - Innocent

[satansaloser2005]

As a matter of fact I might have. However....

Since toDay may be my last Day -again- I'd like to leave you lot a bit of something to chew on. That being said, I will reveal my dream(s) at the end of the Day. With the information I have (or even without it) we've nearly a 50/50 chance of lynching a wolf, which will greatly increase our chances of winning. What I'd like from everyone is a plain and clear suspicion list with as much reasoning as possible for your choices. Anything you can give will help the cause, and I'd love to hear from each player before mid-Day if possible. Mehbe?

Also. Ranger. I need some sort of way of knowing whether or not you protected me last Night. I'm clever, so are you. You'll think of something. And as for the rest of you, please don't go all half-cocked with voting and make me tell you who she is. I'll be very cross with the lot of you.

So. I'm off to analyze. I believe I'll start with Nog. He's been far too quiet.

(Also, the internet's being flimsy as usual so I may be only here in short doses. Never fear, though, for I'll certainly let you know what I know before the Day is out. Also also, I seem to have caught Epic Death, so if I don't show up before a few hours before the deadline someone should probably text me or something to wake me up. I'm just sayin'.)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Makes sense to me. If Sally dreamt a wolf, telling us who it is this early on in the Day would basically shut down any progress we'd make today (you know it's true).

[satansaloser2005]

Also, I kind of want to know how everyone feels about their lovers.


Alona, you're on. Anything to say about Shasta?



ETA: Ah, Shasta's on too. Lol reverse the question as well.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Also, I kind of want to know how everyone feels about their lovers.


Alona, you're on. Anything to say about Shasta?



ETA: Ah, Shasta's on too. Lol reverse the question as well.

Nothing really to say. We haven't PMed at all since the lover pairings were revealed.

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Nothing really to say. We haven't PMed at all since the lover pairings were revealed.

But we just cross-posted in the same minute...that has to count for something right, my love?

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Also, I kind of want to know how everyone feels about their lovers.


Alona, you're on. Anything to say about Shasta?



ETA: Ah, Shasta's on too. Lol reverse the question as well.

Wait, so do you want me to answer that question or not...? I can, if you'd like.

Will work on the list, pronto.

[Inziladun]

Well, it was a bloody strike-out with Lottie, but the Seer and Ranger are still standing, and our Sally-seer says there's hope.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

As a matter of fact I might have. However....

Since toDay may be my last Day -again- I'd like to leave you lot a bit of something to chew on. That being said, I will reveal my dream(s) at the end of the Day. With the information I have (or even without it) we've nearly a 50/50 chance of lynching a wolf, which will greatly increase our chances of winning. What I'd like from everyone is a plain and clear suspicion list with as much reasoning as possible for your choices. Anything you can give will help the cause, and I'd love to hear from each player before mid-Day if possible. Mehbe?

Going to keep us in the dark again?
Actually, I can see the sense of it.

Let's see...

alona: What I mainly have noted is that odd comment to Rikae about being 'on the same side'. Rikae is now known to be innocent, so I'm not sure if that makes her look better or worse. I can't say I'm comfortable with her, though.

Wilwa: A tough one. Seems all right, mostly. She seemed rather fixated on the PM-Pal issues for a long time, which I found rather pointless. Then again Sally also got into that act as well.

Izzy: Pretty much under the radar. In my limited experience with her I tend to want to suspect her on principle, but I haven't seen anything of note yet here.

Nog: Hasn't been around all that much, and has been fairly intently focused on alona, and to a lesser extent, Rikae. I tend to want to trust him, but he seems a little off this time somehow. Maybe it's just his relatively limited presence this time, which may be due to RL reasons.

Shasta: Shady. Hasn't been around much at all, and I'm hard pressed to remember things he's said. He did make an interesting statement:

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I probably won't vote Wilwa as a matter of fact, considering she's been the main voice of trying to get people re-interested. I may just have to pull out my Magic 8... uh.... I mean, my crystal ball. Yeah, that's it.

At the time I thought that last bit could be a clue to his being the Seer, or a wolf trying to give that impression. Since it's pretty clear who the Seer is at this point, that leaves the latter as my suspicion.

Lari: Pm-Pal. We've talked a fair amount, but I haven't gotten any bad feelings from her.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Also. Ranger. I need some sort of way of knowing whether or not you protected me last Night. I'm clever, so are you. You'll think of something.

I had a thought, Sally. Are you sure that's really wise? Isn't there a possibility the wolves could pick up on it, no matter how slyly it's done?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I had a thought, Sally. Are you sure that's really wise? Isn't there a possibility the wolves could pick up on it, no matter how slyly it's done?

Hush now, I know what I'm doing. Although unless it's done properly, yes. And of course if the ranger doesn't tell me anything they don't. I'd just like an idea of whether I'm going to live or not so I know whether to go out with a bang.



So I just plugged Abigail in here and decided to camp out on the couch, at least for now. Almost done with Nog and it's not looking too bright.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nog

What a day - and what a Day!

So I only got to the computer now and will have to wake up in about six hours... Well there's not too much to read either. But sadly also little to make a vote on. I must think about it while checking my stuff for tomorrow.

About revealing the pen-pals... hmm. Hard to say as there seems to be no immediate pros or cons: it might help the wolves planning their kills but it might also help us with some possible combinations I think. Needs some thinking as well.

Back soon.

Obviously not a lot to say here. He, like the rest of us, noticed the rather horrid lack of participation on Day One. He didn’t see much point in revealing the lovers (which I’ll get back to later) but says it may help us work out some logistics of the game. Doesn’t make up his mind on the issue and leaves.

Post score: 0

Originally Posted by Nog

That's the problem. There can be things we can try and learn about our pen pals as the game goes on but at least now it's probably quite futile. And if we reveal all the pen pals right now it might affect the way the wolves communicate via PM's - and not for the more "readable" direction - well saying this out aloud might have a similar kind of effect as well now as I think of it.

That's good to hear. And a good point on why that also needs to be true there Rikae.

Okay. I need to go to sleep. This was a bad Day from me but no can do.

So what to say?

I think Rikae, Inzil and Wilwa are trying to do something which makes me appreciate them and I'm not going to vote anyone of them.

Also I agree on Izzy's earlier point about alona, Sally and Glirdy just complaining the lack of posts and then disappearing without actually trying to do anything to the issue themselves. That is a tactics I tend to always suspect and disapprove of.

Lottie's song would be the classic wolf-opening: "I'm a wolf, I'm a wolf! - heh, only joking..."

Voting this early puts me in no position to vote for someone who has not yet appeared.

A tough call then.

Says that while we might be able to use lovers as a tactical advantage it’s too early in the game to put them to any use. A fair point, and one I would normally agree with completely (and in fact did at the time, as you’ll note).

However, the good things I have to say about this post stop there.

It seems to me he’s giving the people in his first list a free pass simply because he knows they’re trying to make him happy. He knows they’re trying to butter up, and he buys it without batting an eyelash or an orange. Such logic can be deadly in Werewolf.

Of his second list I see parroting, and the sort of parroting I majorly disapprove of. First of all, notice that two of the three of his ‘suspects’ are known innocents. Known innocents! Of course they weren’t at the time of his posting but still. And I, at least, was legitimately busy and said so, yet he finds fault with the posts of those who have nothing to reply to? Rubbish, I say. You disapprove of our ‘lack of posts’ tactic, I disapprove of your shoddy logic. (I’ve more to say on this but will leave it for now.)

Post score: -3. Yes, -3. This disturbs me greatly. Although I’ll give him a cookie for the lovers discussion so we’ll call it -2.

Originally Posted by Nog

I don't remember I have made as non-grounded decision as this is ever on werewolf.

I'm not saying Rikae, Inzil & Wilwa are innocents. Probably at least one of them is a wolf (that's just even statistically quite so). But as they clearly play I wouldn't like to see them gone toDay.

For a moment I thought I would not vote at all but as I have shown my contempt for such solutions in earlier games I think I have no other choice but to vote.

So just guts.

++ alona

Yeah alona, I feel like a jerk. In the last game you promised to stand by my side whatever came... and this is how I pay you back.

I hope that you'll manage to get that much discussion going on later toDay that you can use at least some reasoning behind the votes when the Day closes.

And of course now he retracts his earlier statement, or at least clarifies. He doesn’t trust all these people, he just doesn’t think they should die that Day. Completely different! (It actually is, of course, but I’ve never known Nog to be much of a flopper, so it looks like he’s setting himself up to say ‘I told you so’ if one of them does turn out to be a [fellow?] wolf. Also, he’s putting people posting over the odds of them being guilty. Not a fan.)

And then he votes on nothing. Nothing, and he even admits it. Also, I’ve never known Nog to be so apologetic when he votes someone. Sounds a bit like he feels bad that he has to send the innocent Alona to her grave in order to make sure the game goes his way.

Post score: -1. I feel merciful.

Originally Posted by Nog

Finally back home and read the thread. The last posts by Sally... hmm. Back in a minute.

Nothing. And of course....

Post score: 0

Originally Posted by Nog

As looks quite obvious Sally was the target last Night and was saved by the ranger (decent work ranger as we lost two on D1 - so kind of evens our double loss).

Also it looks to me quite obvious Sally dreamt of Glirdy on N1 - as agreed, the seer would like to know her pal first if he is to be trusted to play together - and thus her panic in the end of the Day.

Furthermore I see no reason to doubt Sally's reveal. And I'll bet she will eventually come back with the one known person to her she must have. But nice drama there at exit to be sure!


Now what makes me wonder is that Lottie was actually quite inquisitive about Sally's panic in the end of yesterDay. And even if her speculations ended up more or less thinking Sally innocent she wished to hear my views on possible explanations of her gifted hints. I've been more than busy - and still am, sorry about that guys - and only answered shortly that I thought that gifted-hinting was not a reasonable POV there... and then the wolves try to kill Sally the same Night.

How much did you others discuss Sally last Night? Was it something everyone talked about or...?

Well of course I was! Lol.

And....erm, thanks for losing me my bargaining “guess who I dreamed on Night One” chip. I’m not sure an ordo would say this sort of thing while the seer’s still alive. I mean fine, analyze all you want when I’m dead but until then don’t try to tell me who I dreamt. I could have bluffed quite easily that I’d dreamt someone who was alive, thus making the wolves nervous, but now it’s useless. (I mean yes, it’s true, but I had a big reveal planned for that and it’s ruined now. Rubbish.) And to be fair, I really just freaked out because he was my lover and dream conduit.

Trusts me and expects drama later. I mean it is me after all. Hehe.

Now that we know Lottie to be innocent I find this a bit interesting. I’m sure it was just a still relatively new Lottie being inquisitive (bless her) but for Nog to bring this up makes me shifty toward him, as saying that makes her look bad.

I also feel like he’s gone fishin’ with the last statement.

Post score: -3. Again.

Originally Posted by Nog

Another thing that makes me feel a bit suspicious started from this:

Now some others have commented on this already but I'm also a bit worried about Rikae's answer to that comment:

But alona first. No ordo but a seer could say that - and a seer most likely wouldn't anyway unless she was to reveal (and this was before Sally came forwards anyway). Especially as she didn't say "I believe" or "I have a strong feeling", or "I have good vibes" but just plain and simple: "glad to have you on my side in this game". I know people think differently, but it's hard to see an ordo thinking like that in any circumstances, especially early on D2 basing her "knowledge" on Rikae's few posts she had made on D1!

But what about Rikae then? Now it looks like a really weird comment to suggest that alona would try to win her trust with that comment. And I guess Rikae realised it as she made a corrective move a bit later explaining alona's possible motivation a bit more. I just feel there is something fishy in there.

It could be within limits of believability that alona and Rikae actually are in cahoots here: alona made a major slip and Rikae tried to distance herself from her because of that.

Be that conspiracy theory as it may be, but I'm most probably going to vote alona again toDay. Not only because of that one thing with Rikae, but also looking at her so busy explaining herself time and time again and making comments I think were more fishy than not. I'll come back with some examples to show what I mean.

Again, he’s making a case against a now-known innocent. I don’t like his track record for doing that. Talks about Alona’s “yay we’re on the same side” comment again and says he’ll probably vote her because she’s likely working with Rikae. Erm....yeah, about that....

Post score: -2

Originally Posted by Nog

On alona on D2

In the beginning there is basically just some odd air around her posting - something giving me a bit similar kind of feelings she gave me yesterDay, but maybe more. Like answering the question of her role with: "Plain ordo like last game, I'm afraid." or "wondering" why the wolves didn't kill her during the Night (why would they?).

But then her own explanation to Sally's question why she was so sure Rikae was on her side is interesting to say the least:

"I just meant we're on the side of innocents"!!! Now what? If you're an innocent alona that sentence is not adding anything to what you said earlier - and doesn't explain it in any way.

But why do you feel the need to say that what you really meant, was that you both are innocents?

And it is an intresting way to phrase a "goodwill statement" by saying you "know" the other is on the same side as you...

It's hard to believe in your sincerity here alona as the other explanation would fit so nicely.

Then she tried to turn the attention to Lottie on the issue of whether Morsul and Sally were "cleared". And when it backfired she turned into suspecting Sally's innocence with some dedication.

And this sounds like a disappointed wolf brooding over unfair rules:

The last posts she has been mainly defending herself...

At this point of the game she's truly my best bet for a wolf. Especially because of that above quote where she answered the question on why she was so sure about Rikae being on the same side.

And if she is lynched and turns out a wolf, I think we should really look at Rikae closely toMorrow.

Aaaaand again. He’s focusing solely on Alona, and I’d really like to know why. Other than that, I don’t feel like offering commentary. He’s being extremely one-minded and it’s scary. (I’m not saying that none of his points are valid arguments, just that he sticks to them even if they’re not exactly the best, and doesn’t concentrate on anyone else unless he can tie them to Alona.)

Post score: -1, because he’s already far enough in the hole.

Originally Posted by Nog

Bedtime.

As Sally has not declared her innocent...

++ alona

For reasons above.

I've had a few terribly busy days now but that's the RL sometimes intruding with a game of werewolf. It should slowly ease up though.

Yes, because I’d hand over an innocent on a silver platter unless they’re being threatened. (That and I wasn’t even around.) Also, his reasoning’s rather meh, so I’m unimpressed.

Post score: -1. Again.

Originally Posted by Nog

If someone hasn't noticed this, pay heed:

So we'll have Sally around toMorrow as well. Make your dream a good one Sally!

Is it paranoid of me that I think he really means ‘make it a good one’? ‘Cause I do. Of course a Nog wolf would want me to dream an innocent, and I know he’d be clever enough to word it like that so he looked good but was actually being sneaky. Thoughts on this?




Overall it doesn’t look too good for Nog. He’s single-mindedly attacking one person, and all the other people he’s even considered accusing are known innocents. It’s very troublesome.

Oh, and his final score? -10/10. Red....no, mauve alert.

Now since I know he’s not the ranger I wouldn’t feel entirely bad for voting him (and in fact would find it quite ironic, since he’s been posting so little that I can’t shake the bad vibes) but I’m not sure I want him as my top suspect toDay since he’s not around. I’ll certainly put him toward the top of the list though!

[satansaloser2005]

Also, since the dream's out of the catcher I might as well post this. I sent it to Gwath along with my second dream because it de-stressed (and distressed lol).



There was a game when Wilwa sighed
When Rikae theorized and held lovers in check
There was a time when no one died
And Little Lottie spoke in song and PMs were in excess
There was a game
Then the votes went wrong

I dreamed a dream of Glirdan’s role
I filled his inbox with sweet whispering
I dreamed that we could reach our goal
I dreamed that Gwath would be forgiving
Then I was full of plans and aims
We hoped to dream and trick the werewolves
There were PMs to be exchanged
No scheme unplanned, no single plot hole

But the votes came tumbling in
Even though we weren’t accusing
I still knew he was done in
As the hunter took him down

He spent a Night with me aligned
He filled my inbox with his musings
He texted me to save his hide
But he’s gone out with Morsul now

And still I dream he'll message me
That we’ll defeat the wolves together
But there are posts that will not be
And my PM box has seen better

I somehow thought this game would be
So different from this thread I’m reading
So better now than what I see
But Morsul’s killed the dream I dreamed

[satansaloser2005]

Also, about Rikae. She wasn't much suspected and an unsuspected Rikae is a dangerous Rikae, as people might actually listen to her. Dunno.

It's possible they thought she was the ranger, but I don't think that was the case.


Speaking of the ranger....*bats eyelashes*

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Speaking of the ranger....*bats eyelashes*

??

I'm looking forward to the Nog analysis, though I do feel slightly guilty about suspecting him so much while he's not here to defend himself. Still have some leftover newbie guilt from the last game. Ugh. Gotta get rid of it.

[alonariel]

Okay, guys, sorry for bailing for most of yesterDay. Here's what I mostly wanted to say but couldn't because of RL problems. Fairly long - hopefully not too hard on the eyes:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But alona first. No ordo but a seer could say that - and a seer most likely wouldn't anyway unless she was to reveal (and this was before Sally came forwards anyway).

Interesting thought, Nog - unfortunately at this point, I'm most likely gone by the end of the Day, which won't let the wolves win immediately, but it's not a good thing, either. It's a shame that, once people look at a comment in a certain way, they stick with that POV and don't try to see things from another angle.

Wilwa was acting rather level-headed throughout the Day, so I pegged her as innocent since Glirdan told me at one point that she usually only gets worked up when she's either gifted or a wolf. She also didn't jump on Nog's lynching of me right away, either, and waited for other opinions to come in.

Lari, like myself, wanted to dip out of the restart game so I figured she wasn't gifted or a wolf.

Nog I didn't have much of a feeling on until he made a case for my lynching based on Rikae thinking my comment about her was "odd." His behavior seemed bandwagon-esque. And then making a case that Rikae and I are both wolves?

Lottie was someone I was completely wrong about, which makes me re-consider her somewhat flimsy scrutiny of Inzil, even though it might have just been Day 1 ordo-on-ordo. I will say that I would've voted for her, though not because of the tie but because of how she was jumping on Lari - who I'm pretty sure is innocent because of reasons stated above.


People's thoughts on last Night's kill? Pretty much frames me up nicely for a lynch today. Are we thinking the wolves might have thought she was the Ranger?

Sally, any luck dreaming of a wolf?

[wilwarin538]

Looking at the votes wilwa looks the worst. She voted for Sally early on D1 - which could be seen as a safe move. But her vote and action late on D2 could be read as a prime example how a thoughtful wolf would act - she voted late but before the real action begins so as not to be noticed. Well, I noticed it. But also, she said her reasons were flimsy (even if Izzy pointed out she had declared she had a lot of time in her hands - and one could see her hanging around all through the Day). After her vote she held back - like if she just enjoyed looking at things and didn't think she should take part in discussion. That's the classical wolf-error: when things are going fine you just hang around and look at the things unfolding as long as they go nice from your POV. She only bothered to defend herself when Izzy questioned her "flimsy reasons" - but that showed she was following the discussion!

Ok. So I'm gonna defend myself once, and then not anymore, cause it seems to always just make me look worse, but this is kinda bugging me.

So Izzy said this yesterDay:

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Wilwarin - I'm still confused on the whole Shasta deal.

I responded with this, because I didn't know what she was talking about:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Hmm???

She responded with this:

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Wilwa..
in #160 you said

"Shasta: makes me a bit uneasy, it seems like a Sally kill could have been an obvious attempt to set him up, and so I see it as possible that he was trying to set himself up to look good (I know that's a big stretch, I won't base a vote purely on that). And him not liking Alona revealing thier Loverness is kinda odd, since it isn't really that big a deal at this point. "

I believe you have made reference to it in other posts.

(bolding mine)

Still don't know what part of what I said she's refering too, what is "it"? The Sally kill choice or the Lover reveal part??? I didn't know yesterDay, still don't really. Then later she votes for me saying I didn't explain my vote well but she never clarified what it was about my explanation that she didn't like, so how could I have possibly explained it better?

And Nog, my vote came at the end of the Day (last 10 minutes), so there wasn't really too much discussion for me to be a part of after I voted, just this thing with Izzy bugging me, cause I was so confused as to what she was referring too, but even most of that came before I voted. So there really wasn't too much "discussion" for me to "hold back on".

And yes I was there all Day, and I did read through everything, but the whole time I had it in my head that I would just vote the same as Sally (to be sure we wouldn't lynch the Ranger). So yeah, I was paying attention to everything said, but I wasn't really looking at it in the sense of trying to find suspicious stuff because I was sure my vote would follow Sally's. So when it was obvious she wasn't showing up I had to go back over stuff fairly quickly in my mind and just reverted back to the list I had made earlier, and Shasta was all that had stood out when I had made it. Basically all Day I had thought Sally would decide my vote for me, so I never really came up with my own possibility. Yes, I know how terrible that sounds, which is why I am coming up with my own possibilities toDay, even though I'll probably just vote with Sally anyway.

K, stopping there.

Originally Posted by Alona

That who thought who was a logical wolf choice?

Alona, you thought you were a logical kill choice, you said you didn't get why the wolves didn't kill you.

x'ed since the Alona post I quoted