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Old 01-15-2010, 06:37 PM   #1
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I need to go for a few hours. I'll be back later on though to vote and stuff.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:05 PM   #2
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Lari didn't seem to get what I meant, so I explained it more. No "corrective move".
I understand what you mean, I just also know that the way Alona meant the comment was in the "I'm innocent, I think you're innocent too" kind of way. And yes, I did mark that you jumped on it, but I also have no idea about you either way. I just noted that.

So Sally is the seer and dreamed of the Ranger last Night. And she is probably not going to reveal who that is to keep them safe. And she gets another dream toNight.

Other than that, Nog's vote looks backed up based on his ideas. I should vote soon because I have no idea if I'm going to be here for deadline or not.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:11 PM   #3
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All right, so I'm going to be going and not here for deadline. According to Alona, she will be back in about an hour and a half.

I honestly have no read on too many people in this game. The only one who I feel like I could vote for is Lottie. I didn't like her attack from earlier toDay and she is just rubbing me the wrong. I don't feel comfortable really voting for anyone else.

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Old 01-15-2010, 07:20 PM   #4
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Quick thought before I run off again: maybe we should all vote the same as Sally, just to be sure we don't lynch the Ranger?
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:31 PM   #5
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Quick thought before I run off again: maybe we should all vote the same as Sally, just to be sure we don't lynch the Ranger?
What if everyone can't around wait to see Sally's vote before they have to go for the rest of the Day? Two have already voted.
Also, she can steer us away from the Ranger, but she apparently can't lead us to a wolf at the moment. I don't want to lynch the Ranger, but I don't want an ordo either.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:48 PM   #6
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Oh, Sally dreamed of the ranger? I missed that. Well, I'll still wait until she comes back to cast my vote.
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All right, so I'm going to be going and not here for deadline. According to Alona, she will be back in about an hour and a half.

I honestly have no read on too many people in this game. The only one who I feel like I could vote for is Lottie. I didn't like her attack from earlier toDay and she is just rubbing me the wrong. I don't feel comfortable really voting for anyone else.

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++Lottie
1. What does Alona returning have to do with your being here for dl?

2. Well, obviously I'm not ecstatic about that, but because of my "don't vote people who vote you" tradition...meh. I may break that. Lari looks pretty bad to me right now.

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Oh, Sally dreamed of the ranger? I missed that. Well, I'll still wait until she comes back to cast my vote.
1. Good job, Seer!Sally!

2. I'll be waiting, too. I have time, and I definitely don't want to lynch the ranger.
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Old 01-15-2010, 08:16 PM   #8
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I don't want to lynch the Ranger, but I don't want an ordo either.
No, a wolf is obviously the objective, but an ord is better then the Ranger, especially when we need them toNight to make sure Sally gets another dream.

I can stay up fairly late so I'm waiting for Sally. I think anyone who is able to wait should as well. I mean yesterDay we lynched our Hunter, so it's not impossible that we could accidently lynch the Ranger as well. I think we should play it extra safe toDay, to guarantee getting that dream.
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:59 PM   #9
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Out of you, Loslote, and alonariel.
your vote just made me feel worse about you. Since you didn't explain more on your Shasta thing, an dyou seemed to of had a lot of time to go over the thread. You may of, but it seems like something would've come out of it.


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Her mother hadn't noticed when Rosalita had snuck out the front door, out onto the street, where a waiting car had whirled her away. It was only the bus brought her father home from the factory that her absence was detected. They all knew what had happened and who she was with. Her father called the police.

Rosalita sat in the backseat with Sloppy Sue and the Barefoot Girl, their guys in the front, as the car sped and swerved down the highway, windows down, hands out the windows, hair flying. Free. Rock and roll blasted through the speakers. Laughter and cigarette smoke floated out behind them. The driver looked back at Rosie and flashed her a grin. Rosie smiled back. Her parents said he would come to no good, that he was a ne'er do well - but Rosalita didn't care. He wouldn't always be poor; in fact, he had promised to take her away to California as soon as his record deal pulled through.

His smile disappeared as his gaze was drawn out through the rear windshield. Flashing lights. He turned to face the road ahead and settled in the seat.

"Seat belts on, windows up," he said. "Here we go."

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And they went, speeding down the empty country road, the police car hot on their tail.

Thirty minutes later, the band of young people were standing on the side of the road, their battered car lying in the ditch, while a policeman grilled them. In the end they were let off with fines and warnings and allowed to go their way - all but Rosalita.

She found herself shoved in the backseat of the police car and dropped off at home minutes later, where her mother railed and cried while her silent, furious father led her to her windowless attic room, slammed the door shut - and then locked her in. She listened as his footsteps faded away down the stairs, then threw herself on her bed and fell into a tortured sleep. She didn't bother to cry, because she knew there would be plenty of time for that later, when her father would return drunk, with that glazed, desperate look his eyes. And then he would beat her.

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Night 3 has begun.

The Living
Johnny 99 - Nogrod
City Dude - Inziladun
Gypsy Biker - Shasta
Bad Scooter - Isabellkya
Mary - Rikae
Crazy Janey - Alonariel
Boardwalk Sandy - Sally
Jersey Girl - Wilwarin
Wendy - Lariren

The Dead
Jimmy the Saint - Morsul - The Highwayman (Hunter)
Wild Billy - Glirdan - Innocent
Rosalita - Loslote - Innocent
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Mary had been happy at first, when she had taken up with the new guy in town. He was cool. He had a band. They had a kid, they got married, they settled down in a little house just outside the city limits, and Mary felt that everything she had dreamed of for her life was coming true.

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In a few months, however, it was clear that all was not well. The strain was beginning to take its toll on both of them. Mary sat out on the porch, for the most part, she who had once been so lively, and, with hollow eyes, watched the cars drive past. Some of the vehicles disappeared westward down the highway, never to return, and these she gazed after longingly. She would remain there in her chair well after the sun had set, staring out alone into the night - almost as if she was waiting, or looking for something. Then the baby would cry, and she would head back inside. He, on the other hand, has become restless almost immediately. He was rarely home: during the day, he worked construction, and at night, he would take his car - the only thing he seemed to really car about anymore - racing on the strip, in the streets, wherever. Anywhere but home, which he avoided almost as if it was haunted.

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And perhaps it was haunted - by the ghosts of the many dreams which had been born there and which had died so soon afterwards.

On that particular evening, Mary walked home from the grocery store to find that he was gone - and not in the usual sense. His side of the closet was as bare as a bone, his drawers empty, his shoes all gone. Scattered all across the bed were the love letters he had written to her - only a year or two ago, she knew, but it felt like so much longer. She was not entirely surprised to find him gone, but it broke something in deep inside her nonetheless. She sat on the edge of the bed for hours that night, feeling so, so old, reading each letter over and over again, as she knew he must have done earlier that day.

It seemed he had gone south, or west, maybe, to look for better work, but when Mary disappeared as well, no one was sure where she had gone Her baby was left on the porch of her parents' house. Some suggested that she had gone after him, and others, who pointed out that she would have needed a car for that, suggested that the police department dredge the river. But, in the end, no one seemed to care.

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[Again, there are not necessarily any hints in the narration. I just write what makes sense in the context of the lyrics.]

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Day 3 has begun.


The Living
Johnny 99 - Nogrod
City Dude - Inziladun
Gypsy Biker - Shasta
Bad Scooter - Isabellkya
Crazy Janey - Alonariel
Boardwalk Sandy - Sally
Jersey Girl - Wilwarin
Wendy - Lariren

The Dead
Jimmy the Saint - Morsul - The Highwayman (Hunter)
Wild Billy - Glirdan - Innocent
Rosalita - Loslote - Innocent
Mary - Rikae - Innocent
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:05 PM   #12
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Okay, guys, sorry for bailing for most of yesterDay. Here's what I mostly wanted to say but couldn't because of RL problems. Fairly long - hopefully not too hard on the eyes:

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But alona first. No ordo but a seer could say that - and a seer most likely wouldn't anyway unless she was to reveal (and this was before Sally came forwards anyway).
Interesting thought, Nog - unfortunately at this point, I'm most likely gone by the end of the Day, which won't let the wolves win immediately, but it's not a good thing, either. It's a shame that, once people look at a comment in a certain way, they stick with that POV and don't try to see things from another angle.

Wilwa was acting rather level-headed throughout the Day, so I pegged her as innocent since Glirdan told me at one point that she usually only gets worked up when she's either gifted or a wolf. She also didn't jump on Nog's lynching of me right away, either, and waited for other opinions to come in.

Lari, like myself, wanted to dip out of the restart game so I figured she wasn't gifted or a wolf.

Nog I didn't have much of a feeling on until he made a case for my lynching based on Rikae thinking my comment about her was "odd." His behavior seemed bandwagon-esque. And then making a case that Rikae and I are both wolves?

Lottie was someone I was completely wrong about, which makes me re-consider her somewhat flimsy scrutiny of Inzil, even though it might have just been Day 1 ordo-on-ordo. I will say that I would've voted for her, though not because of the tie but because of how she was jumping on Lari - who I'm pretty sure is innocent because of reasons stated above.


People's thoughts on last Night's kill? Pretty much frames me up nicely for a lynch today. Are we thinking the wolves might have thought she was the Ranger?

Sally, any luck dreaming of a wolf?
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Old 01-17-2010, 03:45 PM   #13
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Looking at the votes wilwa looks the worst. She voted for Sally early on D1 - which could be seen as a safe move. But her vote and action late on D2 could be read as a prime example how a thoughtful wolf would act - she voted late but before the real action begins so as not to be noticed. Well, I noticed it. But also, she said her reasons were flimsy (even if Izzy pointed out she had declared she had a lot of time in her hands - and one could see her hanging around all through the Day). After her vote she held back - like if she just enjoyed looking at things and didn't think she should take part in discussion. That's the classical wolf-error: when things are going fine you just hang around and look at the things unfolding as long as they go nice from your POV. She only bothered to defend herself when Izzy questioned her "flimsy reasons" - but that showed she was following the discussion!
Ok. So I'm gonna defend myself once, and then not anymore, cause it seems to always just make me look worse, but this is kinda bugging me.

So Izzy said this yesterDay:

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Wilwarin - I'm still confused on the whole Shasta deal.
I responded with this, because I didn't know what she was talking about:
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Hmm???
She responded with this:
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Wilwa..
in #160 you said

"Shasta: makes me a bit uneasy, it seems like a Sally kill could have been an obvious attempt to set him up, and so I see it as possible that he was trying to set himself up to look good (I know that's a big stretch, I won't base a vote purely on that). And him not liking Alona revealing thier Loverness is kinda odd, since it isn't really that big a deal at this point. "

I believe you have made reference to it in other posts.
(bolding mine)

Still don't know what part of what I said she's refering too, what is "it"? The Sally kill choice or the Lover reveal part??? I didn't know yesterDay, still don't really. Then later she votes for me saying I didn't explain my vote well but she never clarified what it was about my explanation that she didn't like, so how could I have possibly explained it better?

And Nog, my vote came at the end of the Day (last 10 minutes), so there wasn't really too much discussion for me to be a part of after I voted, just this thing with Izzy bugging me, cause I was so confused as to what she was referring too, but even most of that came before I voted. So there really wasn't too much "discussion" for me to "hold back on".

And yes I was there all Day, and I did read through everything, but the whole time I had it in my head that I would just vote the same as Sally (to be sure we wouldn't lynch the Ranger). So yeah, I was paying attention to everything said, but I wasn't really looking at it in the sense of trying to find suspicious stuff because I was sure my vote would follow Sally's. So when it was obvious she wasn't showing up I had to go back over stuff fairly quickly in my mind and just reverted back to the list I had made earlier, and Shasta was all that had stood out when I had made it. Basically all Day I had thought Sally would decide my vote for me, so I never really came up with my own possibility. Yes, I know how terrible that sounds, which is why I am coming up with my own possibilities toDay, even though I'll probably just vote with Sally anyway.

K, stopping there.

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Alona, you thought you were a logical kill choice, you said you didn't get why the wolves didn't kill you.

x'ed since the Alona post I quoted
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But anyway, can you at least give us another innocent, Sally? Assuming you really are the Seer?
Interesting. Still not admitting that she is, thus leaving the possibility for doubt open.

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Inzil: PM partner, nothing jumping out.

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Alona: Her arguing with Lottie is a lot like innocent Alona getting annoyed. I'm leaning towards not guilty.

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Lottie: I honestly don't like her logic at all. Most of it is flimsy. I have a really bad feeling about her. It kind of seems like she's a wolf with nothing to do and trying to make sense of it.
1. She refers to Zil as her pm partner. This could easily be her trying to hint that that's all, they're not packmates, just pm pals.

2. If Lari's a wolf, Alona would be a good one to look closely at.

3. "and trying to make sense of it"? What I'm trying to make sense of right now is that post...

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Loslote still gives me a bad feeling. She's more aggressive and not as logical as I'd expect, and toDay hasn't done much to alleviate that.
Since when have I been logical? You've suspected me for lack of logic before, and I was innocent. And I'm always aggressive. It's fun.

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