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Old 01-13-2010, 04:47 PM   #1
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We're flying blind both ways, here and with our PM Pals.
That's the problem. There can be things we can try and learn about our pen pals as the game goes on but at least now it's probably quite futile. And if we reveal all the pen pals right now it might affect the way the wolves communicate via PM's - and not for the more "readable" direction - well saying this out aloud might have a similar kind of effect as well now as I think of it.

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Anyone can be paired with anyone. I think I can say that, since I asked Gwath about it
That's good to hear. And a good point on why that also needs to be true there Rikae.

Okay. I need to go to sleep. This was a bad Day from me but no can do.

So what to say?

I think Rikae, Inzil and Wilwa are trying to do something which makes me appreciate them and I'm not going to vote anyone of them.

Also I agree on Izzy's earlier point about alona, Sally and Glirdy just complaining the lack of posts and then disappearing without actually trying to do anything to the issue themselves. That is a tactics I tend to always suspect and disapprove of.

Lottie's song would be the classic wolf-opening: "I'm a wolf, I'm a wolf! - heh, only joking..."

Voting this early puts me in no position to vote for someone who has not yet appeared.

A tough call then.
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Old 01-13-2010, 05:17 PM   #2
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I don't remember I have made as non-grounded decision as this is ever on werewolf.

I'm not saying Rikae, Inzil & Wilwa are innocents. Probably at least one of them is a wolf (that's just even statistically quite so). But as they clearly play I wouldn't like to see them gone toDay.

For a moment I thought I would not vote at all but as I have shown my contempt for such solutions in earlier games I think I have no other choice but to vote.

So just guts.

++ alona

Yeah alona, I feel like a jerk. In the last game you promised to stand by my side whatever came... and this is how I pay you back.

I hope that you'll manage to get that much discussion going on later toDay that you can use at least some reasoning behind the votes when the Day closes.
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Old 01-13-2010, 05:24 PM   #3
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Considering that for all intents and purposes we've already been through Day 1, I'm not that surprised at the lack of posts. Honestly, I'm most comfortable voting Wilwa at the moment for that bit about the gifteds being able to trust their PM partners, but even that's flimsy as it could easily be a mistake with the rules (which, as we've already seen, can be finicky).

I probably won't vote Wilwa as a matter of fact, considering she's been the main voice of trying to get people re-interested. I may just have to pull out my Magic 8... uh.... I mean, my crystal ball. Yeah, that's it.
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Old 01-13-2010, 05:52 PM   #4
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but even that's flimsy as it could easily be a mistake with the rules (which, as we've already seen, can be finicky).
And it was mostly me that was confused last time as well ....so basically I'm gonna stop trying to come up with weird theories and stuff, since they turn out to not make sense and I seem to be the only one that thinks they're even a good idea in the first place. I'm just gonna stick to finding the wolves and not worry about this whole lover dynamic anymore, it's distracting us all from the main goal anyway.

So about that. The posts have started picking up, which is great, but there still isn't really too much to go on regarding suspicions and what not, and still a few people left to show up. So I'll be come on on and off for the next 2ish hours to comment on random things and then I'll have to vote (school in the am, so I can't really stay up that late).
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:38 PM   #5
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So I need to head to sleep now, it's still fairly early here but I'm exhausted and have to get up crazy early, so I need to vote now.

Still not too much to go on, and nothing really suspicious, but there are a few people who came on and mentioned the lack of posts, and then didn't really do much to get things started (Sally, Alona and Glirdy for example) and Lottie put time into that parody, which was funny, but not really productive. So I'm gonna have to go with one of them....

++Sally

So I need to sleep now. Good luck!
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:46 PM   #6
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Oh man. I come on after a long hard day of writing funnies in class, and I come back to not even two pages? Man...
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:58 PM   #7
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While the lack of posts means people are not saying anything, its kind of good for those who had to work and are now getting caught up *cough*me*cough*.

Anyway, as for revealing our PM buddies, I don't really see what that does to the game. So you know who's talking to who and sharing ideas in private. Or you know who is manipulating who. Either way, what does that information do for catching wolves? And, lets be honest, the Seer is the only one who can really know the role of their partner.

I have no read on the people here. Other than the fact that Shasta looks shifty...and that is all meta game <3.

I really have no read on anyone. There hasn't been a lot said.
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:20 PM   #8
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So, there really isn't much going on now is there.....do I have to say something controversial to get this thing rolling? OK then, here goes...

I think everyone should reveal who their Lover/Pen Pal is, just to get everything out in the open! Honesty is of course the best policy and all.


If that doesn't stir something up I may have to resort to voting randomly for someone...or maybe voting for myself....or maybe false reveal as something.....cause something exciting obviously needs to happen in order for people to start talking....
This is where she first brought it up. This seems rather innocent to me, and I don't see any reason to suspect her for what seems to have been said in a very joking tone.

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Outing the 'PM Pals', hmm? I suppose we could, but what would it accomplish?
The first reaction. Inzil takes it seriously but asks what purpose it would serve. I must admit, this struck me as kind of evil at the time.

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Probably nothing but confusion. I just wanted to get some form of a discussion started and that was the first thing I thought of.
Wilwa restates that she was joking.

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I like the idea of outing the pm-pals. At least it gives us something to talk about, and I definitely need something to restore my enthusiasm over the disappointing turn of the last game. I'll go first - mine is Izzy. You're all free to believe or disbelieve me as you see fit.
Rikae also likes the idea, and goes so far as to reveal that Izzy is her penpal. This seems a tad bit evil, as well, but to doesn't feel quite as bad to me as Inzil's.

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Hmmmm. I'm not sure I like that idea. I mean there's nothing wrong with it, but I don't see why we necessarily should either. Meh.
Sally doesn't like the idea very much and wonders what use it would be. Knee-jerk reaction: innocent.

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About revealing the pen-pals... hmm. Hard to say as there seems to be no immediate pros or cons: it might help the wolves planning their kills but it might also help us with some possible combinations I think. Needs some thinking as well.
Nog sees both sides. I have no idea what this means, evil or innocent.

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And I'm fine if people want to reveal their PM Pals (it was just a suggestion to get discussion started), but I won't say who mine is cause I'm not sure he'd be ok with that, but if he comes on and sees this and wants to say we're PM Pals then he can go ahead and do that, I won't mind.
Wilwa's tone here seems to suggest that she didn't expect the idea to take off so fast and she's a bit alarmed. Kind of innocent, kind of evil.

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That's the problem. There can be things we can try and learn about our pen pals as the game goes on but at least now it's probably quite futile. And if we reveal all the pen pals right now it might affect the way the wolves communicate via PM's - and not for the more "readable" direction - well saying this out aloud might have a similar kind of effect as well now as I think of it.
Again, debating whether or not to reveal penpal. He seems to decide against it, but not too decisively.

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Although I do find Wilwa's posts rather interesting....why suggest that we all reveal who are partners are? Would that not defeat the purpose of the mod god's game and narrations?
Glirdan also doesn't see the point. Knee-jerk: I have no idea. Could be either, since only one person had revealed at this point and it probably wouldn't do much good to jump on it.

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Anyway, as for revealing our PM buddies, I don't really see what that does to the game. So you know who's talking to who and sharing ideas in private. Or you know who is manipulating who. Either way, what does that information do for catching wolves? And, lets be honest, the Seer is the only one who can really know the role of their partner.
Lari doesn't see the point and doesn't think it would be helpful. See Glirdan's for reaction.


So right now, my top suspect is Inzil, but Lari, Glirdan, or Nog could also be wolves, and that's only based on the Pen Pal Debates.

I think I'll go look at Zil now.
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:34 PM   #9
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Okay...so....so far we have two votes:

Vote for/ Vote by

1. Alona - Nogrod
2. Sally - Wilwa

Bot are rather safe votes seeing as neither Sally nor Alona have been able to get on to defend themselves, let alone post. However...I do believe that this is mainly due to the time zone differences and thus I am inclined to believe at this point that neither of these to voter's are Wolves. At least not at this time.

Which leaves everyone else.

Sally, Alona, Lottie and Lari have hardly posted at this point in the game. In fact, Lari and Lottie have just posted (good to hear from you by the way ) and I do believe that Sally and Alona will be on sooner or later to defend themselves and also put their input into the conversation.

One person, who is always vocal, has remained rather silent thus far and it makes me rather concerned. Where has Morsul been all Day? He has not posted once which is rather odd.

Izzy makes me rather nervous as well. I have already explained two of my reasons in my previous post. But another reason has come to my attention...yes she has posted rather little, but all of her posts so far have been small posts with really nothing of substance. Sure you can all say that I haven't had many at this point either, but up until this point, I have only had two posts due to prior commitments and no computer opportunities. There is only one post of hers with any substance in it and that is the one where she makes the rather weak argument against those of us who could not be here to participate in discussions. She is one I will most definitely be keeping an eye on.

Rikae has been a rather active participant in the discussions (thank the lord!) raised about our Pen-Pals and has raised some interesting points of her own. I'm inclined to believe she is innocent at this point, and no it's not just because she said she would rather not vote for me...although that is an added plus!

Shasta has been rather quiet as well and seems to have been slipping under everyone's radar. He's had one post and it was to say that we have already been through Day 1....Did we not agree to completely erase the fact that we did that and NOT take that into consideration? I was under the impression we had. Although, he does bring up a rather good point that Wilwa has been the most vocal out of the group toDay. And then he drops us something....

[QUOTE=Shasta]
I may just have to pull out my Magic 8... uh.... I mean, my crystal ball. Yeah, that's it.[QUOTE}

A cryptic clue?? Or a furry tactic to make us think he's innocent? And I would not put it past him of the latter.

Which leaves Zil....I can't seem to get a read on him at this point.....I would like to hear a little more from him before I vote.

So my suspect thus far is Morsul, Izzy and Shasta. But I will wait a little while longer before I cast my vote.

Oh, and X'ed times 2 with Lottie
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:43 PM   #10
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I need to vote soon, but lack much to go on... Wilwa's fishy looking suggestion strikes me as something too obvious for a wolf to actually say, now that I look at it again... I think maybe I'll vote for Glirdan, simply because of the somewhat nervous (?), anxious almost breathless tone of his post. Last time I was a wolf, I remember worrying that my own posts had a similar feel to them - and in the past, I've found an awareness of things like tone has often been more useful than logic in catching wolves.
On the other hand, Glirdan's just coming back to werewolf after a long absence, and it wouldn't be very nice to vote him on Day 1, especially when he can't post for most of the Day. I'll have to give it more thought.
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:57 PM   #11
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Okay, so I'm finally back (it's been a long day....a gun would have been appreciated at some point....) and have done some reading since I last posted and am absolutely loving how everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to vote for those of us who legitimately could not be here for the Day.

One who pops out the most would be Izzy for two different reasons. One, she was the first to point it out. Two, she herself has posted very little. Why make the accusations when you yourself are doing so as well? Perhaps to hide a furry secret?

Although I do find Wilwa's posts rather interesting....why suggest that we all reveal who are partners are? Would that not defeat the purpose of the mod god's game and narrations?

Maybe I am just too tired to even actually fully understand half the posts at this current moment...which wouldn't surprise me.

Considering I just walked through the door not even fifteen minutes ago, I believe I am going to go take a quick breather (get a drink and something to eat more likely) and then come back and tackle this. I shall return!
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