Tol-in-Gaurhoth Threefold and Six: The Night Guard

[Kitanna]

I went back and read Mnemo and Wilwa's conversation (and all posts that responded early on to it). Since this is the highlight right now it seems like a logical place to look for baddies. However, time is short for me so I'll make a few points quick and come home on my lunch break to finish any thoughts.

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

The easiest way I can see this going forward is if the Seer comes out so that we can vote to guard him/her each night. That way we'll get a virtually limitless supply of dreams so that we can track these foul beasts down and snuff them out.

Mnemo is quick to declare this route this easiest, life in WW is never easy though. It doesn't feel wolfish, not so early, but that doesn't absolve Mnemo.
In answering my query on the idea Mnemo states that the seer has the choice to reveal. Another innocent move, but makes me wonder about Mnemo. However, nothing Mnemo has said screams wolf to me. I want to watch Mnemo over the next few days, but I have a feeling a wolf wolf wouldn't make a suggestion for a reveal so early, but would rather encourage the idea and thrive on any and all confusion.

I will return in a few hours to make a quick statement about Wilwa's role with Mnemo's suggestion and then a vote.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

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EDIT: clumsy fingers

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

^ Dunno if painting that red would be legal and all (see glossary: HIGHLIGHTING) so I won't, but it's a pretty flag, ain't it?

Lynch me pl0x.

(All right, seriously, I'll be gone now, just stole comp time while the parents are out watching soaps.)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

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*Jumps and grabs the nearest pitchfork.* Where? Where!!!
*Realises that it's just the village fool and calms down again.*
Yes, yes, wolves, son, wolves. There are lots of them.

...Anyway, as for other things. I only have to note that I am actually scared how exactly Lommy's thoughts reflect mine. From the beginning points, also those about "unfairness" (I was more like wondering if the Mod should not have limited this Night Guarding stuff a bit more limited rule-wise, though after thinking about it a bit - what I've been doing through writing all these posts - maybe it's not TOO strong, but still maybe a bit of a disbalance, but who knows), through the idea that if anything, Mnemo could be a possible Cobbler, up to the somewhat discomforted way of Kit's post (you are not going to be around, Kit? I don't think you didn't say anything about it on the admin thread? That's why it surprised me.)

When we are already at it, I also feel quite good about Nerwen this far, and I am not entirely sure about wilwa, maybe mainly because of the continuous pursuit of the revealing idea, though it's not anything too definite (mainly as she put that down in the end herself, but that could have been as well mere resignation). Anyway, I'm looking forward to see also others posting... hopefully not only in the last part of the Day or anything.

EDIT: x-ed with Nilp

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Mnemo could be a possible Cobbler

There are no cobblers.

[Pitchwife]

*comes into the market square and ambles around, listening to the discussion and trying to catch up with what has gone before*

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

There are no cobblers.

Hey! Good to know, but you were originally planning some, were you, or did I just make it up? *checks the rules* Because I was under the impression that there was supposed to be one according to the rules...

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Hey! Good to know, but you were originally planning some, were you, or did I just make it up? *checks the rules* Because I was under the impression that there was supposed to be one according to the rules...

I'm tempted to just repeat "There are no cobblers", but maybe that would be taking it too far...

They were never actually mentioned under roles, but I had put it under possible seer dreams by mistake at first, a mistake that I got rid of as soon as I realised.


And from now on, go to the Admin Thread for such questions.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

No, not at all. I'd expect nothing less. In fact, it might make me a bit uneasy if you didn't.
I may return the favor, though. Or, I may vote to guard you, who knows?.
The Day is still young.

Oh pig loins! All the suspicion you acquire every single time, has made you much more cool and calm. I should have expected it.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Anyhow, I don't know if I should be worried because this talk has been going on for so long. Everybody seems to agree we won't do it now, so why keep talking about it?

I wouldn't say that. Mnemo's has gotten several people talking about a subject, there's information there, now let's look through it. There are still too many quiet villagers, but hey there's been a lot of commenting on Mnemo's plan.

Since she was the originator, I don't see how proposing a controversial idea, while getting lots of comments on it makes someone suspicious. We've been given about as good as info as we can expect to get on Day 1, courtesy of Mnemo. Now look through it and interpret it, because it's not posts and posts about pigs, fools, and feminine wiles.

For the time being, I see Mnemo as kind of the aunt you want to keep at arm's length. She's part of the family, and generally a sweet person, but you're not sure about the true nature of the activities she is up to, so I'm just keeping her at a safe distance for now.

By the way, I wouldn't mind trying her plan once the wolves are down to 1 kill. Two kills complicates everything, and could really make a mess of things, but if one wolf be gone, well it may just be worth it. Maybe it's just me, but the fact is sometimes as a wolf you have to do some real crazy stuff to win, it's no cake walk that's for sure. I think at times we have to do the same, and try out something that seems a little "out there." It could fail stupendously, but it could give us a brilliant and worthy win.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

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Where?! Where's the dirty scoundrels?! *shoves glasses up farther on nose and brandishes a ruler* Let me at them!!!!

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

^ Dunno if painting that red would be legal and all (see glossary: HIGHLIGHTING) so I won't, but it's a pretty flag, ain't it?

Lynch me pl0x.

Only if they lynch me too. I thought you were dead once and it nearly killed me. I could not bear it if you died again, etc. *waits for Boro to step in*


In other news, I'm really tired. Got back from my aunt's and now it's laundry and then nap time, so I'll likely be around later in the Evening.

[Pitchwife]

Good afternoon everybody! Seems I haven't missed that much...
As for Mnemo's suggestion, it had to come up, and why not rather sooner than later? It makes as good a starting point as any. The idea must have occurred to anybody who has given the words of our Mayor some thought (it surely did to me this morning while I was alone, working on the decorated lintel Nogrod commissioned for his mansion). The wolves probably saw it coming as well, but I don't think they'd bring it up themselves; anyway, I find it hard to suspect, much less convict anybody on no more evidence than their position in this debate - there may well be one or more wolves arguing for either side, in order to confuse us.
The Seer, of course, will do as the Seer sees fit, but I think it would be wise for them to reveal if they are either

• able to name a wolf (catching the first wolf early is crucial, as it will halve the Night-kills); or
• in danger of being lynched by mischance. (A cousin of mine told me this happened in his village not so long ago, when their inexperienced visionary got himself lynched after only one dream; predictably, the wolves triumphed. We want to avoid that!)

Some more thoughts to follow soon, but I've got to wet my throat first. That Chetwood Stout of Inzil's sounds promising...

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Oh, c'mon, Legate, let's play to win, and debate fairness later, after we have four wolf heads.