Tol-in-Gaurhoth LXIII: The Cottage of Lost Play

[Nessa Telrunya]

"Well, up to now, I don't have clear views on everybody, but can assess based on what's happened.

Inziladun I'm not sure about. He seemed to be there where Fea needed it when he tied her vote for McCaber But it doesn't really seem to me that he's dodging everyone, so I don't know.

Shasta I have my suspicions about, but I don't think it's anything that would require me to vote for him just yet.

Pitchwife I have a feeling about. Sure he clearly states his thoughts about everyone, but something just doesn't sit right. He voted for Shasta, who didn't have anything clear against him, because he said he didn't like bandwagoning. That's hardly a reason.

McCaber we've already dissected. Now, we can assume he's the seer. If he lives for long, he probably isn't, since the wolves would go for him. I have to watch him.

Nogrod seems fairly stout for the moment. He gives you his views flat out, but no one is truly safe from all suspicion, so I can't count him out just yet.

autume98, frankly, I can't see as a wolf. She isn't trying to outmanuever anyone enough for that, and she reasoned her vote for Eonwe as a gut feeling.

Lalaith hasn't given much to go on. She just seems to be giving her ideas without really throwing herself out there.

Nerwen I'm still not sure. Her situation is about the same as Lalaith.

Rikae didn't vote. There could be an innocent explanation, but no one is counted as a sure innocent yet.

Eonwe seems wholesome. Nothing she's said or done so far looks off to me.

But those are just my views. I could be totally wrong.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nessa Telrunya

Nothing she's said or done so far looks off to me.

She?

[McCaber]

Vote Count:

Pitchwife: 1 (Lalaith)

You know, just in case anyone was wondering.

[Nerwen]

"By the way, Lalaith," said Nerwen, recalling something the other woman had said earlier,

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Then, Eonwe and Pitchwife. I may be being dense, but I can't really think of a likely innocent explanation for their double-act. It is however possible that one of them is an unwitting stooge. Which? Actually I think it is more likely to be Eonwe - he is being defensive, and Pitchwife might be taking advantage of this and fostering him as an ally.

"Is it really likely that a relative newcomer to the Downs like Pitchwife would be able to manipulate Eönwë so successfully? I don't say it's impossible– he seems to have a good handle on things– but to me their conversations look much more as if Pitchwife is getting tips from Eönwë."

Edit:X'd since McCaber.

[McCaber]

Once again night is nearly here. I give it about two hours before the worst of it hits.

And it's strange, but I myself am unsure of who to vote. I was actually hoping for more discussion, but I suppose that two hours is a long time in this scenario.

Well, there's no way I like Eonwe, or perhaps even Lal or Pitchwife. I'll give this another pondering and see if anything strikes me.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

You people really are going to have to make up your minds. If I don't say anything, I'm "unhelpful". If I do, I'm "defensive". You can't have it both ways. So which is it?

[Eönwë]

OK, I'm sorry. I was mistaken. It appears that it was I spoke to Pitchwife 3 times on the matter of the seer.

Also, some of the stuff that's been said about me has ridiculous. "Giving tips to Pitchwife"... If you're going to accuse me, at least come up with a good reason.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

If I don't say anything, I'm "unhelpful". If I do, I'm "defensive". You can't have it both ways. So which is it?

Heh. Not quite. The first part is right though - if you don't talk you are unhelpful. But there are a host of things to do when talking. It's not anyone elses fault you have decided to take a retaliatry defence mode. No one forces you to it. How about making some suspicions yourself? Try it, you'll like it - and we'll like it.

And McCaber is right, we should pull our act together. I'm going to give a thought on that in a moment.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

"Retaliatory defense"? Hm, yes, I suppose you could call it that, because you're using the same complaint you use every game in order to suspect me after other people already have.

Oooh, look! I'm following the moddess's request! How suspicious!

++Nogrod

[Nogrod]

Looking back at my earlier thoughts on whom I'd be more hesitant to vote toDay leaves me with four people. Namely: Nessa, Shasta, autume and Eönwë. Sadly I'm not too enthusiastic of lynching these people either. But let me see.

Nessa then. As people have said already, voting wolf-on-wolf early is a possible idea but sounds a bit dangerous. Also Fea's comment of Nessa not being a wolf looks more like she tried to make herself look good being considerate and such by calling a retaliation not a probable wolvish action at that point. The only thing that actually bothers me there is Nessa's point on not being just retaliating... So was there a communication breakdown of sorts there? Props for Inzil for noticing it.

Shasta's behaviour kind of irritates me a bit. After that morning rant - when he promised to make cases - he's just disappeared and now pops up only to say that he's unhappy with how some of us look at him because of what he does or does not do. Anyway, Would he act like that if he was a wolf? That then is the question.

Autume I think might need a bit more time to adjust in and I might be willing to give her the benefit of the doubt at least toDay.

Eönwë has somehow slipped my radar completely - or almost. I need to check what you others have been saying about him and what he has done himself...


EDIT: X'd with Pitch and... Shasta... okay then...

[Pitchwife]

Now look at this! I leave you people alone for a couple of hours, and whoops! here's the first vote for me - with more to come, the way it looks. I guess it had to come, in a game where everybody suspects everybody. Just makes me wonder how wrong I may have been myself in my suspicions of some other people.
Like McCaber, for example - and possibly Shasta, too.
Indeed, I like the way Shasta defended himself against Nogrod toDay. Maybe in his case, too, what looks like suspicious behaviour is just personal style? And the whole thing between Shasta and Inzil needs to be inspected closer.
Inzil did indeed misrepresent Shasta's explanation of his doings upstairs, whether on purpose or not. That is no big matter in itself, but his constant denying of what is on record for everybody to check I find puzzling. He also was very quick to pick up Eönwe's early (very early!) suspicion of Shasta, with very little to base such a suspicion on at the time. This is where Shasta's career as a suspect actually began, before Nogrod came in.
I'm also very worried by the fact that Boro, who clearly suspected Inzil and voted for him, was conveniently killed before he could explain himself. Had he realized that Shasta had been set up as a diversion?

I'm not going to reiterate everything I've already said about my cross-posting last evening. Believe it or not, it's true.
Since the main other reason I'm being suspected is my interaction with Eönwe, a few words about that are required, I think. Lalaith, just because I thought and said that your attack on Eönwe was unwarranted at the time doesn't mean I'm in league with him and trust him more than I do anybody else. I'm very curious about him and would very much like to know which side he's on. (If you want to know why, look closely at our interaction in the early yesterDay morning hours.) My best way to form an opinion about him is talking to him.
I also have the impression that Eönwe and Inzil were playing very smoothly into each other's hands last morning (the Shasta suspicion, the blood-phobia theory), but at the moment I find Inzil more suspicious. Indeed, Inzil is my prime suspect as of this.

EDIT: typos corrected

[autume98]

At this point in time I'm looking at Eowne.* YesterDay she voted for McCaber which caused there to be a tie between McCaber and Fea.* Seems a little suspicious to me.

[McCaber]

So it looks like we have another last-minute voting rush. Can people at least say who you're planning on and why, so as to avoid another debacle like the last Day? Anything that limits confusion and maximizes effectiveness, especially in clearing out relations between people.

EDIT: crossed with Eonwe

[Inziladun]

*strides into the room*

Well, decision time again. Thanks to McCaber, we did well yesterDay.
Rather than say what I think of everyone, I'll keep it at things that I find striking, as time is short.

Originally Posted by Nessa Telrunya

Well, the good thing about having gotten a wolf so early is that those who voted against her couldn't be wolves. If they were, surely they would not have voted to kill one of their own.

I don't know Nessa well, as she hasn't been a part of our Downs community terribly long. However, such an adamant statement, that the Fea voters could not be wolves, and Fea saying no one should vote for Nessa makes me uneasy. Again, my suspicion of her (and McCaber in turn) the previous Day was based upon the fact that she voted for Fea immediately after Fea voted for her, and, after it was posited that Nessa's was a revenge vote, she denied it. Her 'explanation' of the vote never rang true to me. Couple that with her urging McCaber to reveal his dream after he's already said he wished to keep it to himself for the moment, and Nessa is highly suspect to me.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Nice thought, Eönwe, and thanks for voicing it. (No offence, McCaber - I'm sure you'll understand we need to consider every possibility! Of course, you would do yourself a great favour in terms of credibility if you told us what you did dream last night, and why you're so reluctant to talk about it.)

Another one wanting McCaber to divulge information about his dream. And for credibility? He gave us the name of a wolf on the First Day! What more do you need?

Originally Posted by Eönwë

But this is just hypothetical. For now I think we should assume that McCaber is the real seer.

Definitely. But after Nog says:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

it looks reasonably believable McCaber is our seer...

Eönwë asks Nog for clarification.

Shasta I still don't trust. He seems to have pretty well continued his previous pattern of popping in and out without saying anything to help our cause.
I have yet to see his case against four of us, of which one was me.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Eönwë asks Nog for clarification.

Yes. That was a bad quotation by me. Look at Noggie's post from where I quoted that and you'll see why I asked:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Well, earlier he had said McCaber had been too calculated and detached... Good, good... but looking at Eönwë's actions so far I could say almost the same about him - and it looks reasonably believable McCaber is our seer...

So I didn't understand what he was trying to say...

[McCaber]

Vote Count:

Pitchwife: 1 (Lalaith)
Nogrod: 1 (Shasta)

[McCaber]

I'm still waiting to vote, to make sure that an innocent doesn't get lynched against my wishes.

Don't worry, I'm good for it.

[Nessa Telrunya]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

She?

Ah, I'm so sorry! Everyone's nicks are so confusing! I also would've called Pitchwife 'she' by accident, only his name has already been adressed.