WWLXII: Dead Men Do Tell Tales

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Gwath? Nerwen? Either of you around?

It would be better if you all voters would be around... It's no use us ghosts talking without you guys who make the decisions.

[Gwathagor]

It is conceivable that Greenie is lying about being the seer as either Wilwa, who was modfired, or Mira, who's out of touch, could be the real seer and we would never know. If Greenie is just a cobbler, then it opens up the possibility (however slim) that Nerwen may be a mutineer - which would support the odd fact that she has never been night-killed, despite being the closest thing we have to a live known innocent. Slim chance, though. More than likely, I reckon it'll come down to me and Izzy.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

It is conceivable that Greenie is lying about being the seer as either Wilwa, who was modfired, or Mira, who's out of touch, could be the real seer and we would never know. If Greenie is just a cobbler, then it opens up the possibility (however slim) that Nerwen may be a mutineer - which would support the odd fact that she has never been night-killed, despite being the closest thing we have to a live known innocent. Slim chance, though. More than likely, I reckon it'll come down to me and Izzy.

It's difficult for me to imagine a real seer, modfired or just killed, who could not find some way to pop in just once and let everyone know to watch out for Greenie.
You're right: it is possible. It seems unlikely to me, however.

[Inziladun]

Another thought: Mira's computer apparently died suddenly, but Wilwa had time to ask Brinn herself to be modfired. Surely she would have taken a moment to enlighten us if she were a gifted?

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Another thought: Mira's computer apparently died suddenly, but Wilwa had time to ask Brinn herself to be modfired. Surely she would have taken a moment to enlighten us if she were a gifted?

Well - maybe, but it's also possible that Brinn would have thought that that would unbalance the game. I mean, would she have revealed Wilwa's role if she was a mutineer? Let's not get distracted, though.

[Gwathagor]

Maybe Izzy was trying to play cobbler yesterDay? Since at this point in the game we can't afford to lynch cobblers, it would be a good tactic for anyone to use and it would explain the obstinate craziness, anyway. Personally, however, I'm pretty sure both cobblers have been killed by now and are just talking a lot, trying to throw us off.

[Nogrod]

Another interesting formulation...

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

I reckon it'll come down to me and Izzy.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Another interesting formulation...

I may as well also point out that Nerwen's vote will end up being the decisive one, since neither Izzy nor myself can very well vote for Nerwen in good conscience, given Greenie's seer reveal. So I'll end up voting for Izzy and Izzy will likely vote for me and then Nerwen will choose who dies.

[Isabellkya]

I've already voted for Nerwen before Gwath.

If it comes down to Nerwen's vote. Then I'm sure we all can take a good guess at what it will be... and the village will lose.


X'd with Gwath x2 & Zil.

[Isabellkya]

You'd been gone for how many Days? Yet you come back and at first think it is innocent vs. innocent between Nerwen and I. Then I believe you jumped on the Izzy-is-a-Cobbler Wagon.


X'd with Nerwen and Nog.

[Nogrod]

Cool down Izzy...

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

You'd been gone for how many Days? Yet you come back and at first think it is innocent vs. innocent between Nerwen and I. Then I believe you jumped on the Izzy-is-a-Cobbler Wagon.


X'd with Nerwen and Nog.

Which post is this a response to? Inzy's?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

I may as well also point out that Nerwen's vote will end up being the decisive one

Agreed and being corrected of what you meant.

I too think it will come down to Nerwen to decide this. Unless that row between Nerwen and Izzy comes down to some crazy conclusions...

You saying that Gwath makes me think better of you - if that is of any comfort in this tight spot you guys are. I mean if Izzy were an innocent she would let go at least now as there are only forty minutes to go...

Originally Posted by Izzy

If it comes down to Nerwen's vote. Then I'm sure we all can take a good guess at what it will be... and the village will lose.

Sounds like wolf-talk to my ears...

[Isabellkya]

Gwath.
I think he was talking about Wilwa coming and revealing that she was the seer - if she were. Since she had time to ask Brinn to mod-fire her.


-eyerolling at Nerwen-

You can't just take sentences out of context, and attempt to twist them to another meaning, and expect to get away with it Nerwen. You've been doing it -I've only noticed it in regards to myself- for sometime. I've called you on it numerous times.

You skipped over the part where I said I don't think it is the case of you and Gwath being MutieMates.

In the second portion, you are taking it out of context. Really Nerwen.
That was explaining why I think I'm still alive. Because I'm an easy lynch choice.

If you are going to try and say I'm a Mutie because of "weirdness", then you should've done it Days ago. Since it is in no way a new thing. Or "new information".


X'd with Gwath and Nog.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

You skipped over the part where I said I don't think it is the case of you and Gwath being MutieMates.

No, the point is, you can't logically consider it at all– it's now numerically impossible for there to be more than one wolf!

I'm not twisting your words. If you say weird and/or suspicious things, people will comment on it. Them's the breaks....

EDIT: spelling.

[Isabellkya]

I think even Gwath was thinking I was a Cobbler or Mutie yesterDay.

^
That is neither weird or suspicious. People question why they or someone else is alive all of the time. It is nothing new. For you to single it out and bring it out of the context, to call it a slip - is twisting it.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

^
That is neither weird or suspicious. People question why they or someone else is alive all of the time. It is nothing new. For you to single it out and bring it out of the context, to call it a slip - is twisting it.

But why did you say "even Gwath?" Whether it is or not, that really does look like a slip.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

^
That is neither weird or suspicious. People question why they or someone else is alive all of the time. It is nothing new. For you to single it out and bring it out of the context, to call it a slip - is twisting it.

Nope. Drawing attention to possible slips is just part of this game.

Izzy, I'm frankly getting a little tired of your apparent belief that you deserve some kind of special treatment not given to anyone else.

No doubt you will now say I'm "twisting" and "putting words in your mouth" again. Well, guess what? I'm tired of your endless "twisting" accusations too.

EDIT:X'd since Izzy at #1293. EDIT 2:word left out.

[Nogrod]

Putting my few cents in...

Looking at the overall situation you need to decide which scenario is the more believable: the one where we lynched a host (well at least two) mutineers on the first 4 Days or so and got them into a tight spot - or the one where we made two to three succesful lynches on the last three Days just narrowly avoiding defeat before it.

If the first is the right one, then it looks like Gwath is the mutineer, if the second, then it should be Izzy (also following from her own reasoning with Lommy's, Mac's and Eönwë's voting)...

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Putting my few cents in...

Looking at the overall situation you need to decide which scenario is the more believable: the one where we lynched a host (well at least two) mutineers on the first 4 Days or so and got them into a tight spot - or the one where we made two to three succesful lynches on the last three Days just narrowly avoiding defeat before it.

If the first is the right one, then it looks like Gwath is the mutineer, if the second, then it should be Izzy (also following from her own reasoning with Lommy's, Mac's and Eönwë's voting)...

Uh, explain?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Putting my few cents in...

Looking at the overall situation you need to decide which scenario is the more believable: the one where we lynched a host (well at least two) mutineers on the first 4 Days or so and got them into a tight spot - or the one where we made two to three succesful lynches on the last three Days just narrowly avoiding defeat before it.

If the first is the right one, then it looks like Gwath is the mutineer, if the second, then it should be Izzy (also following from her own reasoning with Lommy's, Mac's and Eönwë's voting)...

I'm inclined to believe the latter scenario.